[Stoves] Off topic

Tue Dec 26 22:05:10 CST 2017

Thanks Crispin,

When I bought the farm 10-1-56, the surrounding small farmers heated with
wood, except the Goetzmans, across the valley, who were surrounded by
woods, but to show that they were above wood burning, bought/burned coal.
None of them had heard of secondary combustion or "air tight".  During the
fuel crunch in the 70's, when many were putting in wood burners, the paper
did a story,  with photos of a more efficient wood furnace I had put in,
along with neighbor Girtler's, both heating and cooking with wood,
including a photo of their dome shaped wood pile, which Herb enjoyed
making, however, Helen was embarrassed, because heating with wood, was
looked on as only one step above still having an outhouse.  I had 3 flush
toilets in this old farm house, but after reading "The Humanure Handbook"
by Joe Jenkins, I tired of hearing them being flushed for every thimble
full of whatever, so took them out 20 yrs. ago.  Went through composting
toilets, etc. in a rental cabin but now just use 5 ga. buckets and
newspapers, which makes great soil, which is a drop in the bucket compared
with all the compost here.
   http://www.winonapost.com/Archives/ArticleID/38340/How-vu
lnerable-we-have-become

I have no idea how much wood we burn, have had a little farm/compost site
open every day from dawn until dark since 1990, where town people dump
garden/lawn waste and brush/chips.  The City usually dumps 400 little 1 ton
truck loads of street leaves here for 18 yrs., only 300 this yr. because
they are removing 2,000 dead/dying ash trees.  They'd gladly dump all those
here too, for they'll just torch them and have no interest in biochar.

Outdoor wood boilers are notoriously inefficient, in that with most, the
firebox is surrounded by water, so the temp. is never high enough to burn
efficiently.  Both of mine took 54" long logs and I sold them after 15
yrs..  PCA has forced new OWB to be more efficient, though T is doing his
best to eliminate all regulations.  125' from the house didn't seem far.
They are smokey devils, it was near a large wood shed and another building
I had planned to heat.  I have a backhoe, so easily put the 2 insulated,
circulating pipes 6' down.

At that temp., you must be lost in Waterloo, Ontario??   Why?

This letter to the editor, from one year ago is the only public notice of
my effort to safely land this unusual little piece of land.  The City and
County don't want it.  A park or nature center is as creative as they'd
be.   Because it can't be developed, some rich people might pay a couple
million, for their locked gate, show off estate.  I just want to keep
puttering here until the party is over.  I dug my hole 3 yrs. ago and must
dump a load of horse manure, to keep it from freezing deeper.  There are 3
acres registered as a cemetery, for natural burial only.  At a mere $1000
per grave = $1 million her acre.  75 yrs. ago most would've been horrified
if someone suggested grandma be incinerated.  The grass fed beef, hogs,
honey, etc. should all be sold here.  It has the potential to be an
interesting place.  I don't want money or my name on anything, I'd just
like to see the place work.  Thanks for listening,  Dick
http://www.winonapost.com/Archives/ArticleID/33371/The-Meadow

   http://www.winonadailynews.com/news/opinion/letters/dick-
gallien-planning-the-future-of-the-winona-farm/article_c058d
ef5-1b3b-5854-b255-e5e044d2c8a3.html

Dick Gallien
22501 East Burns Valley Road
Winona  MN  55987
dickgallien at gmail.com  [507]454-3126
www.thefarm.winona-mn.us

Prison bars do the confining, allowing the prisoner a mental freedom not
possible in schools, where an endless barrage of assignments, lectures,
questions and tests, serve the same purpose, under the guise of education,
while distracting as efficiently as the cracking of whips, keeping the
imprisoned from discovering and pursuing their passions, or noticing that
there are no real bars------and by the time they might realize the purpose
of their confinement, it is too late.

On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <
crispinpigott at outlook.com> wrote:

> Dear Dick
>
> Long time no hear...
>
> Do you have an estimate of the total mass of wood you will use for space
> heating in a season?
>
> Maybe you use cords as ‎your metric.
>
> Next, do you have a good idea about the efficiency of the outdoor wood
> boiler.
>
> Lastly, why was it located so far from the house?
>
> Thanks
> Crispin in -20 C Waterloo
>
>
>
> In that it's below zero F at noon now, I was thinking that during 60 yrs.
> of heating only with wood, no one has ever asked what I have for backup  It
> they had asked, I could've said that I have an endless supply of WOOD, but
> that wouldn't have made me much warmer in a power outage than most.  I've
> had wood furnaces of varying degrees of efficiency,  One outdoor wood
> boiler 125' from the house, another OWB  naked within a 40X60' bldging,with
> tubing for hot water, poured into the floor, all dependent on electricity.
> Now, using only 3 wood stoves, we are finally electricity free--heat wise.
> In our lofty position of collecting university food waste for hog food, (a
> huge social leap from when I hauled all of Winona's  27K sewage to this
> farm) we have 32 ga. Rubbermaid barrels to pressure wash, which is done
> using a top loaded Sedore wood stove, with 2 water loops, which through
> thermo syphon, heats a used, elevated 80 ga. Marathon water heater.  When
> the power goes out, we just hook up the hot water to a diesel powered
> pressure washer----gotta keep those hogs happy.  I realize heat is of
> little concern to most, compared with the heating and cooking problems in
> 3rd world countries, but our social networks are becoming shakier,
> including heat and power..
>
> Dick Gallien
> 22501 East Burns Valley Road
> Winona  MN  55987
>
> Dick Gallien
> 22501 East Burns Valley Road
> Winona  MN  55987
> dickgallien at gmail.com  [507]454-3126 <(507)%20454-3126>
> www.thefarm.winona-mn.us
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