[Stoves] Real results with TLUDs in India --- was Re: CO2 drawdown (Re:Jock)

[Paul Anderson]

On 2/4/2017 7:14 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:
> TLUD designers: poor people do not have lots of free time. They do not care as much about smoke as you do. They dislike additional manual work. They are much better at operating stick fed stoves than they are given credit for. Tincanium is not widely available. (Mali has only 20% of the metal it would need to have broad adoption of improved stoves.)
>
> Producers: if you want me to promote your TLUD char making solutions, stop using the WBT to lie about how much fuel they consume. It is your albatross, shake it off your neck.
My responses:
1.  Very poor people living in eastern Darjeeling Districe, West Bengal, 
India are eagarly accepting the Champion TLUD stoves, with a waiting 
list for each new batch.   And there are 12,000 of those same stoves in 
constant use in Deganga, WB, for up to 4 years.  It seems that much of 
the rejection is by Westerners who believe they know what the poor 
people think and want.  Time will tell.

2.  The calculations of the fuel use reduction for the same cooking 
tasks in Deganga were measured with a scale in the field in Deganga.   
Average usage of nearly 9 kg went down to about 4 kg.  I call that 
better than 50%.   AND the families are selling their charcoal for 
important monthly income.   No WBT involved.  Deganga TLUD usage has 
been verified for each of the past four years by third-party examiners 
for the carbon credits.  ---- There is no reason to be knocking the 
TLUDs because of calculation issues regarding the WBT.

Note:  I am now seeking funding to expand the TLUD availability in West 
Bengal.  Grants, purchases of carbon credits, and even loans (secured 
with expected sales of carbon credits) are all welcome.  If willing to 
participate in any way or able to get others to participate financially, 
please contact me directly at my personal email address     
psanders at ilstu.edu     (Be sure to NOT respond via the Stoves 
Listserv.   Do NOT send to "Reply All.")

Paul

Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
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