[Stoves] : Early TLUD history... Re: Friz Handel's Bush Buddy history

[Ronal W. Larson]

Tom, list and ccs

	Can you clarify on your 1980’s testing of the (3?, all updraft?) Hottenroth stoves whether any produced char?

Ron



> On Feb 21, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:
> 
> Tom,
> 
> Thank you for your further comments.   I am placing them at the EPosts section at the    drtlud.com website for continual access without needing to search the archives.
> 
> Paul
> 
> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
> Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072
> Website:  www.drtlud.com
> 
> On 2/20/2017 10:20 PM, Tom Miles wrote:
>> Paul, Neil,
>> 
>> Great story. It's not unusual for creative people faced with similar
>> challenges to come up with similar solutions. We have frequently seen that
>> with industrial processes patents. Sometimes when you contact someone and
>> say "Hey, we had the same idea!" you never hear from them again, or, they
>> send you a copy of their patent. Other times you exchange stories about how
>> each arrived at a similar solution.
>> 
>> John Hall apparently trademarked his Bushbuddy about 1999 and eventually
>> abandoned it. You can find the abandoned trademark but a quick search didn't
>> show a patent. He appears to still be in Portland.
>> 
>> It is interesting that Fritz's invention was inspired by solving problems
>> with the Sierra camp stove. I still have our 1990 Sierra Stoves sitting on
>> the shelf. As you know we tested them and the Zmart Stove for the developer,
>> Fred Hottenroth, and Tom Reed. Tom boiled peas for me in his kitchen with a
>> Sierra about that time. As you probably note in your history, Tom was
>> working with the stratified downdraft in 1980 and I saw his the first TLUD
>> he showcased with Ron Larson in about 1996. (That's when I talked Ron into
>> moderating this list, which he did for the next 6 years.)
>> 
>> Whatever the evolution it's great that the TLUD concepts have served the
>> hikers and domestic cookers for at least 27 years. Besides, there has always
>> been something intriguing about gasifiers.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> 
> 
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