[Stoves] Declaration about Woodgas

[Paul Anderson]

Todd,

You point is well taken.  Future revisions of the "Classification..." by 
me or by others can include more stove types.

About char production, ten tons per day of good quality (low volatile) 
char from merely 12,000 households with TLUD stoves is not exactly 
small, especially when the price tag of the equipment (US$40 each) is 
less than $500,000 and lasts for many years.   Someone someday will do 
the numbers with details so we can all see the comparisons.

Paul

Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  www.drtlud.com

On 10/20/2017 10:15 AM, Todd Albi wrote:
> Paul:
>
> Nice rough draft template, but your ACCS section at the bottom appears 
> to be Paul's endorsement of Champion stoves, exclusive of cleaner 
> burning natural draft or fan stoves that produce little, if any 
> meaningful char.
>
> Large scale bio-char producers and operations likely would scoff at 
> the idea of small household stoves producing meaningful volumes of 
> market ready bio-char production. Small household stoves more likely 
> best targeted for personal gardening consumption.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Regards
>
> Todd Albi, SilverFire
>
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 7:15 PM, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu 
> <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Stovers, Charists, and all,
>
>     I have prepared a "Declaration of Clean Cooking with Woodgas" for
>     everyone's consideration.   A copy of the version as of today's
>     date 2017-10-19 is attached, or you can get it at
>     https://woodgas.com/declaration/
>     <https://woodgas.com/declaration/> where any revisions will be
>     available.    Therefore, there is still time for your comments to
>     be considered.   This is now available several days before the
>     start of the 2017 GACC Forum in Delhi, which I will be attending
>     and will hear some feedback about this "Woodgas Declaration."
>
>     The bulk of the page has the justification statements: "Whereas
>     ......."  (10 of them.)   And based on the truth of those
>     statements, then comes the declarations:
>
>     "now, therefore be it
>     DECLARED ...... that:
>     1. there are no "clean fuels" per se, but they can be “clean” (by
>     definitions that are subject to discussion) only when properly
>     combusted in appropriate, specialized combustion devices (burners
>     and stoves), and fuels by themselves are neither clean nor dirty;
>
>     2. woodgas is a clean fuel when appropriate micro-gasifiers with
>     designated solid fuels are used by adequately-experienced
>     cookstove users;
>
>     3. woodgas has the potential to reach hundreds of millions of
>     households to provide cleaner cooking while using smaller
>     quantities of their current, locally-available fuel supplies, and
>     all with sustainable financing, reduced expenditures, and even
>     potential net profit;
>
>     4. leaders, authorities and all parties interested in clean
>     cookstoves should recognize in words, writings, actions and
>     financial support that solid biomass can become a very
>     clean-burning fuel for cooking in woodgas stoves for millions of
>     households; and
>
>     5. the expression “Woodgas is a Clean Fuel” is more than a motto,
>     and it should be a guiding principle for prompt actions to assist
>     at least one billion of the most underserved people on Earth, this
>     being a most worthy goal that also has realistic prospects for
>     being accomplished with honorable expedience. "
>
>     Please participate in the discussions.   I start my trip to India
>     early on Saturday, so please discuss without expecting me to make
>     replies promptly.
>
>     Paul
>
>     -- 
>     Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>     Email: psanders at ilstu.edu <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>
>     Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072 <tel:%2B1-309-452-7072>
>     Website: www.drtlud.com <http://www.drtlud.com>
>
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