[Stoves] News: Dublin deaths from "renewable energy" - wood and peat heating

Sun Dec 9 04:14:33 CST 2018

Dear Crispin,
I know nothing about rules or coals or gas, I just read some news.
According to the information you provided, the same thing is happening
around the world really.
I believe governments around the world are deeply interconnected some way
now, I am pro conspiracy theory.
if the resume of primary minister of Canada, or Macron of France will not
surprise you guys, the man Ismaël Emelien( photo attached ) might do.
google him, this young man's experiences might shock many of you.

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <crispinpigott at outlook.com> 于2018年12月9日周日
上午11:30写道：

> Dear LH
>
>
>
> Can you tell us something specific about coal combustion and the rules?
>
> I have heard about people getting gas connections without gas. Is it
> related to that?
>
>
>
> From May 2019 it will be illegal to burn unprocessed coal in Ulaanbaatar
> in spite of that city having the most advanced coal stoves designed in a
> purpose-built research facility.  There is a distance between the rule
> makers and the product they are ruling.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately the mania about not burning the only fuels most people can
> afford is not very well informed.
>
>
>
> I think the most sensible rules and product approval system is in New
> Zealand where they are very tolerant of products that are clean burning, no
> matter how it is done.  Their standard has been in place for several years
> – perhaps 10.  They have approved products and fuels, but also a rule that
> anything that is as clean is permitted.
>
>
>
> The situation in Montreal is different in that they were ‘scared’ into
> passing something on an urgent basis and got into problems afterwards with
> public opinion.  It was enthusiasm misinformed on the basis that fuels have
> inherent, not incidental emissions. It is a confused situation and that
> available knowledge is not being shared far enough.
>
>
>
> We are witnessing a failure to communicate.
>
> Crispin
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> *From:* Stoves <stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> *On Behalf Of *lh
> cheng
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 08, 2018 6:56 PM
> *To:* Nikhil Desai <ndesai at alum.mit.edu>; Discussion of biomass cooking
> stoves <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Stoves] News: Dublin deaths from "renewable energy" -
> wood and peat heating
>
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>
> It is a test, test  by some ruling elite, how much can people endure, how
> many lies can they make through. If they declare the ownership of the
> water, air, then they can declare the ownership of everybody's very life.
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>
>
> Several days ago, people got arrested for burning coals. and some people
> is forbidden to raise sheep outside of their house, northern China.
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> China is different from the other part of the world? No. the same thing is
> happening throughout the world.
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> Everything is about truth. They are targeting ordinary people. if they've
> got the ownership of the air and water, then they will become god of human
> being, that's their ultimate dream.
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>
>
> And they will succeed in that. and the end times will come.  which will
> prove that they are not god of water or air, according to Revelation
> chapter 16.
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> Nikhil Desai <pienergy2008 at gmail.com> 于2018年12月9日周日 上午12:45写道：
>
> Basically an argument against EU's Renewable Energy Directive which, in
> its climate hysteria, treats wood pellets and peat as carbon-neutral fuels.
> Following Gary Fuller in the Guardian Pollutionwatch: wood burning is not
> climate friendly
> <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fenvironment%2F2018%2Fmar%2F01%2Fpollutionwatch-wood-burning-is-not-climate-friendly&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbdd0ef5db45f4aa054ff08d65d696027%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636799104490605066&sdata=ih2FFZnFhpM7qSSe7wLHmcG0XgVVJXZtkJdHwze3N0w%3D&reserved=0>,
> 1 March 2018, which is rather silly, looking at only CO2 emissions, not all
> carbon emissions, and dismissing reuptake by photosynthesis.
>
> Dublin is a city of 1.3 million people.  Chunshui Lin, et al., Extreme
> air pollution from residential solid fuel burning
> <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature.com%2Farticles%2Fs41893-018-0125-x.epdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbdd0ef5db45f4aa054ff08d65d696027%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636799104490605066&sdata=2WBm%2FtUwHpzArbWyLSmAku6WlAxQrIrVJbQLknTV4Mw%3D&reserved=0>,
> Nature Sustainability, September 2018 claim that "only a few households
> (<13%) that burn biomass for heating (especially peat) could cause
> recurring extreme pollution events, influencing the overall air quality in
> the city."
>
> That is enough for Gary Fuller to write in the Guardian Pollutionwatch:
> wood and peat burning brings return of air pollution to Dublin
> <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fenvironment%2F2018%2Fsep%2F27%2Fpollutionwatch-wood-and-peat-burning-brings-return-of-air-pollution-to-dublin&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbdd0ef5db45f4aa054ff08d65d696027%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636799104490605066&sdata=Z%2FxHAsI7n6%2Bu3fQ1vuvVkNOUQRgayx6%2BRJnlJvm4bHs%3D&reserved=0> 27
> September 2018.
>
> Combustion practices matter. The primary research here (Lin et al.)
> perpetuates the lie of emissions being an inherent property of the fuel by
> using same emission factors for a fuel type regardless of fuel chemistry
> and combustion method, and then without regard to the building design,
> exhausts, fenestration.
>
> No exposures were estimated, so no death tally was baked. But if emissions
> mean exposures, surely exposures mean death.
>
> Air quality experts are welcome in a regulatory debate, along with
> engineers, architects, fuel and stove marketers. Absent such debate, people
> are condemned to these environmental health zealots.
>
> Nikhil
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