[Stoves] Bulk density of LPG vs pellets
Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
crispinpigott at outlook.com
Tue Feb 13 12:41:05 CST 2018
Dear Paul
Perhaps you could consider transporting torrefied pellets<https://www.pellet.org/images/5%20-%20Bahman%20Ghiasi.pdf> instead of raw wood (21 MJ/kg). Not only is it more energy per ton, it is more likely not to be damaged by moisture. That link has some interesting info BTW.
You can guess that the LPG (46 MJ/kg) is about 2.7 times the energy of the pellets (17 MJ/kg), however the empty mass of the tank is about equal to the gas contents. Thus the energy content per transported kg is only 1.35 times that of the wood.
In terms of cost the wood should be cheaper, delivered.
If you are turning the wood into char and not burning it, the cost advantage will be lost. I presume you have a plan to offset that.
Regards
Crispin
-----Original Message-----
From: Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Paul Anderson
Sent: 13-Feb-18 10:15
To: Stoves and biofuels network <Stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Subject: [Stoves] Bulk density of LPG vs pellets
Dear Stovers and friends,
I hope that someone can provide an answer to this question:
The situation: A fuel for cooking needs to be transported to communities in somewhat remote locations. There are roads that at least allow a pickup truck to go in and out year-round. The people have access to locally sources woody biomass fuel, but are interested in having some better stoves with processed fuels. In particular, they are considering LPG in standard bottles/tanks that are brought in full, and empties are taken back. They are also considering pellets that are in typical 40 pound (~18 kg) bags, with local sales in smaller quanties. Consider initially that the pellets are made in the same location where the LPG bottles are refilled. (We can consider different distances of transport later, if of interest). (also, there will be some differences if different sizes of LPG bottles or pellets in super-sacks are used, but that is not of much interest in this initial
discussion.)
The question: How much energy can be transported in each delivery trip, and which becomes the most economical -- or are they about the same? The LPG has more energy per kg of fuel, but must be transported in metal containers that are cylindrircal and occupy much space. The pelelts are in bags that can be stacked (such as on a pallet of pellets).
Boilse down to: LPG in bottles vs pellets in sacks.
My thanks to everyone who contributes to answering this question.
Paul
--
Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: psanders at ilstu.edu<mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.drtlud.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1f5941fb59884cf761ce08d572f51165%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636541319233583963&sdata=8C5DI9HeatzQFb69kgQKaQyCKIdwesQi2QiWGKaJork%3D&reserved=0
_______________________________________________
Stoves mailing list
to Send a Message to the list, use the email address
stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org<mailto:stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page
https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.bioenergylists.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fstoves_lists.bioenergylists.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1f5941fb59884cf761ce08d572f51165%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636541319233583963&sdata=nK%2BkbaxuWRqc0xoNqzOfzMkGydnq2JMURI%2FFPFn6io0%3D&reserved=0
for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:
https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstoves.bioenergylists.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1f5941fb59884cf761ce08d572f51165%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636541319233583963&sdata=yfZUYxdY1H5n8t2EXOTUft8ptyWgYYvvVFRTcOTK4qI%3D&reserved=0
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20180213/f725121f/attachment.html>
More information about the Stoves
mailing list