[Stoves] Central Java Stove Polit video

lh cheng lhkind at gmail.com
Fri Feb 16 20:37:55 CST 2018


Dear Crispin,
thank you for your reply so quickly, I believe your statement is true in
south-eastern Asia, which I didn't know. but in Rebecca's video, that is
really a formal indoor.

2018-02-17 10:23 GMT+08:00 Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <
crispinpigott at outlook.com>:

> Dear Ih Cheng
>
> I pointed out in my previous message that in Indonesia (and the
> Philippines actually) kitchens are not 'indoors' in the western sense.
>
> The hazards of combustion have to be considered in context. The woman you
> mentions is Rebecca who has done great work with localised production of
> quite high performance stoves in refugee and disaster situations. She has
> both assisted and benefited from participation on this list.
>
> Regards
> Crispin
>
>
>
> Batch feed stove, indoor use, no chimney, bad combination.
>
> I have read old post of this mail list on the web, a similar combination,
> a video posted by a Philippines woman, (she is not the real housewife, just
> a role player I can see),  she asked for suggestion from this mail list, no
> one warned her. Sad about that.
>
> 2018-02-16 18:13 GMT+08:00 Andrew Heggie <aj.heggie at gmail.com>:
>
>> On 15 February 2018 at 16:51, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
>> <crispinpigott at outlook.com> wrote:
>> > Dear Friends
>> >
>> > There is a 3 minute video<http://www.newdawnengine
>> ering.com/website/library/Stoves/Indonesia/Java%20Pilot%203%20minutes.mp4
>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newdawnengineering.com%2Fwebsite%2Flibrary%2FStoves%2FIndonesia%2FJava%2520Pilot%25203%2520minutes.mp4&data=02%7C01%7C%7C68caec7c216d4083776e08d575a589b3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636544276189389288&sdata=hUA%2Fip9W76tlqSSTk2V7ZAOVRnQ%2BKG%2BC4W4mBPf6x1c%3D&reserved=0>>
>> available briefly describing the pilot which saw over 9000 stoves sold
>> using a Results Based Financing project (RFB). The file is almost 180 MB.
>> >
>> > You may recognise some of the stoves shown, but not most. Half the
>> models are made in Indonesia. There are shots of production in process, a
>> few words from users and some cooking scenes.
>> >
>> > Have a look at the kitchens in the background. It shows that wort of
>> air turnover can be expected and therefore you can get a feeling for what
>> the exposure to smoke might be in different settings.  There are 4 basic
>> types of kitchen structure, only one of which is enclosed on all sides.
>>
>>
>> Crispin
>>
>> I appreciate the contextual scenes  but I'm not at all good at
>> recognising stoves. What's the one at 3:17, it seems to have the
>> shortest, and probably best mixed, flame. The others seem to impinge
>> the pot and hence may be prematurely quenched.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
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