[Stoves] Must reed: Re: [stove] ProPublica article out

Xavier Brandao xav.brandao at gmail.com
Mon Jul 16 06:17:50 CDT 2018


Dear Paul,

 

Of course, there are some great stove technologies and models, and some successes, like the Moulindu Banerjee’s project in India.

But compared to the amount of efforts, actors, money involved (even if 75 million USD is really peanuts), the article is right: the improved cookstove sector results are disappointing.

 

The TLUD technology has indeed a lot of potential. I’d say it was developed in spite of the WBT issues.

 

Dear Kirk,

 

“To me it makes more sense to build upon a good idea, like the TLUD, then to spend years arguing about testing systems.”

We can do both and we have to do both. Plus we didn’t spend years arguing, and that was maybe the problem. I think now the argument is over and we have reached a conclusion.

Wasting years producing meaningless results, that has been the problem so far.

Having reliable testing methods is nothing but a necessary investment.

 

Best,


Xavier

 

 

 

De : Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] De la part de Kirk H.
Envoyé : vendredi 13 juillet 2018 22:45
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All,

 

I am supportive of Dr. Anderson’s position.  The TLUD stove is amazing.  Its potential is even more amazing.  It is capable of fulfilling many of the cooking needs of those who have solid biofuel available to them, and doing it with very little hassle and destructive emissions.  To me it makes more sense to build upon a good idea, like the TLUD, then to spend years arguing about testing systems.  This especially for tests which have more to do with the cooking vessel than with the stove itself.  The well designed TLUD stove will test well no mater what test is used, and will provide steady heat for any cook’s cooking vessel, water in a pot, soup or stew in a pot, frying in a frying pan, stir frying in a wok, making tortillas on a plancha, baking in an oven, or whatever vessel is being used.  Plus it can extract CO2 from the atmosphere.

 

I began working on the TLUD type stove when I learned about the technique from Dr. Anderson, Dr. Larson, and Dean Still at an Aprovecho stove camp, and saw what potential it has.  Even if nothing I have done is ever used to benefit anyone (though I would rather that it was), I am happy with my time working on this type of stove and with what I have learned about it and about the combustion of biofuels in general.  Also, I have met a lot of wonderful people during this time.

 

Kirk H.

 

 

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