[Stoves] latest Maasai Stoves and Solar model

Nikhil Desai pienergy2008 at gmail.com
Tue Oct 2 10:40:54 CDT 2018


Dr Lange:

Thank you for this. Thrilled to read your words - " of course, when you get
to know them, you find the Maasai women really don't like their houses.
they want three room rectangular houses with, heaven forbid, wall space for
furniture. and metal roofs, and maybe a couple of windows. Up-keep of
thatch is a real burden and there is no place for a comfortable bed in a
little round house.        so if they get better housing as they want,
stove needs will change.  We wish for their sake this would happen faster
than it will. "

This desire for different kind of housing may be the more important factor
in changing stoves, fuels, and cooking patterns, than anything else in the
last 40 years as new household formation in the population primarily using
solid fuel for cooking and heating amounted to 1 billion (as couples, so a
total of 2 billion people plus another billion or so children; about a
billion people died, and another billion or so shifted to non-solid fuels.)

On the other hand, so long as chilly environs of the hills of Malawi,
Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, Guatemala, Nepal are available for academic
tourists, peer-reviewed papers and HAPIT consulting will continue to have a
thriving market.

Why are so many HAP studies done on homes with not enough ventilation and
considerable heating demands, I could never tell. Except that such climates
are more hospitable and it is easier to model air circulation in one room
rather than three.

That no stoves are abandoned out of 4,600 is a far better victory than any
that could be certified by ISO TC-285.

Nikhil


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Nikhil Desai
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On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 10:41 AM Lange <rbtvl at aol.com> wrote:

> Hello from the Maasai project
>
> we are pretty happy with our model 4 stove.     CO and Particulates are
> good if the cook uses the stove carefully,    (How a woman actually cooks
> can't be ignored.)     fuel is consumption good and burns are eliminated
> except for touching the hot cooking surface.
>
> we have 4600 of our model 3 and model 4 stoves out in homes.   And there
> are none abandoned.  The stove continues to be what  women want in their
> little unventilated houses.
>
> But, of course, when you get to know them, you find the Maasai women
> really don't like their houses.    they want three room rectangular houses
> with, heaven forbid, wall space for furniture. and metal roofs, and maybe
> a couple of windows. Up-keep of thatch is a real burden and there is no
> place for a comfortable bed in a little round house.        so if they get
> better housing as they want, stove needs will change.  We wish for their
> sake this would happen faster than it will.   The sooner our stove is
> obsolete the better, but that is a long time away I am afraid.
>
> We have designed remarkable effective and inexpensive chlorination systems
> and are installing them at their polluted  ponds, and breeding a new better
> cow.  People are ready to work for all sort of lifts from poverty and we
> are working to make as many of these efforts self-supporting as we can.
>
> the stove, if you are interested is at
>
> https://internationalcollaborative.org/our-work/stoves/
>
> and our general website is     internationalcollaborative.org
>
> yours
>
> bob
>
> Robert Lange
> the ICSEE
> Office of Programs and Development
> 705 Americana Drive Unit 5A
> Annapolis MD 21403
>
> ICSEE(Tanzania)
> Monduli, Arusha, Tanzania
>
>
>
>
>
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