[Stoves] Trash Burner

[Tony Vovers]

Steven
Thanks for feedback, unfortunately this system seems to have some kind of
local government backing.

We are trying to find the right local government resource to discuss with
but it would really help if someone could feedback either a test or a good
reference document source that could be used to clearly explain the risks.

In addition to this machine the streets are  lined with smoldering piles of
yard waste (and plastic) on a daily basis. So an education program is being
put together.

Thanks
TonyV


On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 04:04 Law, Steven (MECP) <Steven.Law at ontario.ca>
wrote:

> Shut this device down immediately using any means necessary, it is a toxic
> chemical horror show and it will be very expensive and difficult to measure
> the complex organics coming out in the smoke emissions.
>
> I would be less concerned if it was 1000C like a proper incinerator but at
> 200C there is no proper combustion it is just degradation into CO, PAH,
> D/F, etc.
>
> Do not allow anyone to put the wash water or ash / “biochar” on the soil,
> as it will become toxic and any food grown on this soil will be full of
> toxic chemicals.
>
>
>
> *From:* Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Tony Vovers
> *Sent:* October 10, 2018 9:18 AM
> *To:* Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
> *Subject:* [Stoves] Trash Burner
>
>
>
> Dear Stover's, looking for some measurement / testing advice.
>
>
>
> A quite horrifying machine has arrived at local trash collection site here
> in Indonesia.
>
>
>
> Large trash burning oven,  burning at 200C with some kind of water screen
> washing the exhaust.
>
> This wash water is sold directly to our local farmers as a 'biological
> pesticide' after a couple of burns.  The black bits at the bottom as
> 'biochar'.
>
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> I know it is not technically a 'stove'.
>
>
>
> I am seeking advice on how and what to measure in the chimney/smoke so we
> can help local community understand what is coming out. We have access to
> some good labs but noone has been able to advise on sampling or collection
> methods and what to test for.
>
>
>
> I've sent some of the liquid out to the lab.
>
> The stuff going into the oven is basically everything picked up, probably
> 60% organic and paper and 25-30% plastic of all varieties, some glass.
>
>
>
> Many thanks
>
> TonyV
>
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