[Stoves] "For cook and climate: Certify cookstoves in their contexts of use"

Thu Aug 15 18:51:52 CDT 2019

Dear Nikhil

I am sorry Samer and I were unable to get more content of the original paper into that particular slot. The info you asked about is definitely there but we knock, and sometimes it opens.  Sometimes not.

The paper went through several iterations based on permitted length. It is a fascinating study in contexts of use. I was surprised, to say the least, to find that charcoal is cheaper than firewood.  In Maputo Cecil found a similar deal: cooking with wood was a much less pleasant experience (due to moist fuel and crummy stoves) and for the money, charcoal was a much better deal in terms of the cost of energy.

The gulf (not gap) between what people think on the ground (refugee camp, displaced persons communities) and what is imagined by the designers and promoters is still there.  A particular criticism I make (a spot for big improvements) is the idea that a stove can be tested out of context, optimised in technical ways, then taken to the field for acceptance testing. The concept of “optimised” means making it field-acceptable, with as much technical benefit as possible or affordable within that set of constraints.

As Karsten says, everyone having a Tier 2 stove is much better than 1% having a Tier 5, if at present everyone has a Tier 0. That said, I am not very fond of the term “intermediate technology”.  The concept is wrong. A successful and popular Tier 2 stove may be highly advanced technically, and involve multiple cutting edge ideas. Making it accessible and affordable is a factor, and if it ends up at Tier 2, so be it.

That paper has on of the best pieces of stove test art evah!

Kevin points out that the following link worked for him.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325248783_For_cook_and_climate_Certify_cookstoves_in_their_contexts_of_use

You can also look it up using the DOI number.

Regards
Crispin

From: Nikhil Desai <pienergy2008 at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 10:45 AM
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>; Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <crispinpigott at outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [Stoves] "For cook and climate: Certify cookstoves in their contexts of use"

Crispin:

The DOI citation should be  doi.org/10.1016/j.erss.2018.05.014<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdoi.org%2F10.1016%2Fj.erss.2018.05.014&data=02%7C01%7C%7C45f27d1f722245af2b5908d7218f22f3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637014770952510536&sdata=%2BRoiWm5mVvwXkLJ5aW4BZhkIKONPsLNAxHVqIcMi7sA%3D&reserved=0>.

Too much in here, from stove testing to CDM commissars' beancounting (with no basis in law anywhere).

I wish you had some photographs and videos of these interviews and the actual texts and translations; after all, foreign visitors' interviews with 56 women can only provide so much useful information.

I don't see any reason to put "climate" in the heading, nor do I see enough evidence for your last sentence, ". In places like Darfur, energy policies that promote sustainably harvested and produced charcoal at local markets is likely to realize greater climate benefits than giving away free cookstoves designed to burn wood."

I don't know what "places like Darfur" means. Did anybody ever do an inventory and categorization of biomass cookstoves and fuels around the world? Or just parroting Kirk Smith's billions and millions?

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On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 8:30 AM Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <crispinpigott at outlook.com<mailto:crispinpigott at outlook.com>> wrote:
Dear Friends

A paper that may be of interest to those designing stove programmes.

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"For cook and climate: Certify cookstoves in their contexts of use"; Samer Abdelnour and Crispin Pemberton-Pigott; Energy Research & Social Science, Volume 44, October 2018, Pages 196-198; https://doi.org/10.1016/j<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdoi.org%2F10.1016%2Fj&data=02%7C01%7C%7C45f27d1f722245af2b5908d7218f22f3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637014770952520535&sdata=cw6R2XEILfDCVYwcmCSbzipzfqccxDJWAtPUODR%2FwI8%3D&reserved=0>.

Abstract
“Improved cookstoves are widely promoted as a health and climate improving technology, yet there remains a wide gap between their reputed benefits and the inconclusive outcomes of most interventions. An increasing number of scientists suggest that the popular lab protocols used to test, rate and model the benefits of improved cookstoves are at least partly to blame. Insights from a recent study of improved cookstove users in Darfur, Sudan, reveal the extent to which the logic and goals of lab-based testing protocols differ from actual cooking practices. We elaborate on the climate and energy policy implications of decontextualized lab tests and conclude with a call to design, test and select for dissemination only those improved cookstoves that are rated on the basis of their intended contexts of use.”

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Regards
Crispin

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