[Stoves] ***SPAM*** Re: Stoves Digest, Vol 148, Issue 13
Paul Olivier
paul.olivier at esrla.com
Fri Dec 23 19:18:28 CST 2022
Thanks.
On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 2:30 AM Norman Baker <ntbakerphd at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> 1. Re: I would like to join these discussions. (tmiles at trmiles.com)
>> 2. offlist reply from Paul (ajheggie at gmail.com)
>> 3. Re: I would like to join these discussions. (Paul Olivier)
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>> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:07:26 -0800
>> From: <tmiles at trmiles.com>
>> To: "'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'"
>> <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Stoves] I would like to join these discussions.
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>> Paul,
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>> Welcome to the stoves discussion. Feel free to post. You will find the
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>> Tom Miles
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>> T R Miles Technical Consultants Inc
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>> From: Stoves <stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> On Behalf Of Paul
>> Olivier
>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 1:06 AM
>> To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
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>> Subject: [Stoves] I would like to join these discussions.
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>> --
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>> Paul A. Olivier PhD
>> 104/43 Phu Dong Thien Vuong
>> Dalat
>> Vietnam
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>> Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings Vietnam)
>> Mobile: 090-694-1573 (in Vietnam)
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>> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 21:50:29 +0000
>> From: ajheggie at gmail.com
>> To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
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>> Subject: [Stoves] offlist reply from Paul
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>> Please see below a small offlist discussion which I think was aimed at
>> [stoves]
>> . I found it interesting that kaolin (same as fullers earth or bentonate
>> clay I suspect) modiies the combustion in this way.
>>
>> Now to find a Vietnamese shipping company that can handle all the duies
>> and
>> transport for dhipping Delivered Duty Paid.
>> Andrew
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>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 at 00:20, Paul Olivier <paul.olivier at esrla.com>
>> wrote:
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>> > See comments below.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 6:51 AM <ajheggie at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> What appeals to me is that rice husk is an agri residue that performs
>> >> well with no special preparation, there are presumably other crop
>> >> hulls or pips which are similar, olive or cherry pits or pistachio
>> >> nut hulls.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Here in Vietnam where I live, there is a lot of coffee husk that is
>> > uniform.
>> > But coffee husk contains a lot of oily compounds.
>> > When one gasifies coffee husk, a lot of black smoke is created, and the
>> > flame is yellow.
>> > However, when we mixed in about 2% kaolin and pelleted the coffee husk,
>> > the black smoke disappeared, and a beautiful blue flame was created.
>> > This opens the door to pelletizing pine forest debris.
>> > In the province where I live, there are 50,000 hectares of pine forests.
>> >
>> > Vietnam produces over 90 million tons of rice straw and over 8 million
>> > tons of rice hull.
>> > No one here should have to use fossil fuels, wood or charcoal to cook a
>> > meal.
>> > World-wide there are several billion tons of straw of various kinds that
>> > could be pelleted and used as gasifier fuel.
>> >
>> > I look forward to making briquettes as well as pellets.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The height of the briquette can be adjusted to whatever gasifier run
>> time
>> > is needed.
>> > A fan would not be needed when gasifying briquettes.
>> > The top of the briquette could be coated with a fire-starter material
>> for
>> > easy lighting.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Twigs on the other hand would have to be harvested, dried and prepared
>> >> which may be costly in labour.
>> >>
>> >> When wood pellets got more expensive here in UK I sieved out wood
>> >> chips to give me the relatively small size class that my pellet burner
>> >> could feed, they were difficult to dry sufficiently and although
>> >> available free the effort wasn't worth it to me, also the burner was
>> >> derated by over 50% because the bulk density was so low. I took the
>> >> pellet burner out and reverted to a modern, clean burning 4kW log
>> >> stove. This can heat my small house comfortably down to 5C outside and
>> >> a little less well in the few days last week when it went to -5C.
>> >>
>> >> Paul has developed the gasifier for agricultural communities and it is
>> >> best suited there.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I suggest that it is suitable everywhere that high-grade heat and
>> biochar
>> > are needed.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Where I volunteer at a community interest woodland (mainly run for
>> >> educational purposes) there is a small commercial sawmill. The sawdust
>> >> has been allowed to build up to become a problem, it has also been
>> >> allowed to get rained on. If the gasifier could turn dry sawdust to
>> >> char it would be an interesting teaching aid on a number of counts:
>> >>
>> >> Utilising waste for heat/cooking
>> >> tidiness
>> >> Pyrolysis/gasification
>> >> Biochar for use in the nursery
>> >>
>> >
>> > Try not to let the sawdust get wet.
>> > If the sawdust contains oily compounds, add kaolin and pelletize.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Best wishes for the season Paul and Ron and thanks for an interesting
>> >> topic back on [stoves]
>> >>
>> >
>> > Thanks so much.
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>> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 05:18:11 +0700
>> From: Paul Olivier <paul.olivier at esrla.com>
>> To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
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>> Thank you, Tom.
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>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 2:11 AM <tmiles at trmiles.com> wrote:
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>> > Paul,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Welcome to the stoves discussion. Feel free to post. You will find the
>> > archives at:
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>> > There are 948 current members.
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>> > If there is interest, we may migrate the list to a more modern platform
>> > and update the files.
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>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Tom Miles
>> >
>> > List Owner since 1996.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > T R Miles Technical Consultants Inc
>> >
>> > Portland, OR 97225
>> >
>> > Cel/VM 503-780-8185
>> >
>> > tmiles at trmiles.com
>> >
>> > www.trmiles.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *From:* Stoves <stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> *On Behalf Of
>> *Paul
>> > Olivier
>> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2022 1:06 AM
>> > *To:* Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <
>> > stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>> > *Subject:* [Stoves] I would like to join these discussions.
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>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > --
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>> > Paul A. Olivier PhD
>> > 104/43 Phu Dong Thien Vuong
>> > Dalat
>> > Vietnam
>> >
>> > Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings Vietnam)
>> > Mobile: 090-694-1573 (in Vietnam)
>> > Skype address: Xpolivier
>> > http://epwt.vn/en/home/
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>> Paul A. Olivier PhD
>> 104/43 Phu Dong Thien Vuong
>> Dalat
>> Vietnam
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>> Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings Vietnam)
>> Mobile: 090-694-1573 (in Vietnam)
>> Skype address: Xpolivier
>> http://epwt.vn/en/home/
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Paul A. Olivier PhD
104/43 Phu Dong Thien Vuong
Dalat
Vietnam
Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings Vietnam)
Mobile: 090-694-1573 (in Vietnam)
Skype address: Xpolivier
http://epwt.vn/en/home/
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