[Stoves] ***SPAM*** AW: Re: Carbon credits for briquettes that replace charcoal in Africa / Shelter Drum Retort Kiln

K McLean kmclean56 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 31 07:20:43 CST 2024


Dr Adam.
Well done. But I cannot open the link.
Are they selling the briquettes for about the same price as charcoal? Are
they seeking carbon credits?
Kevin McLean
SUN24

On Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 12:43 AM dr.adam <scda2 at ymail.com> wrote:

> *Dear All,*
> I purposely did not fly from Nairobi to Kisumu (Lake Victoria) but i
> took a bus (9hrs) to see the landscape in Western Kenya. I was expecting
> dry land as the newspapers report about the draught and kettle dying in
> Kenya.
> But to my surprise whole of the 9hrs of traveling we passed green and
> fertile landscape, old and young trees everywhere, some tree newly planted
> in groups or plantations, some trees very old and large.
> In Kisumu/ Kakamega i visited the project of
> http://www.eco2librium.net <http://www.eco2ecilibrium.net>
> Which is carbonizing sugar bagasse and daily briquetting the char to be
> used as cooking fuel.
> I was building a *Shelter Drum Retort Kiln* there, which i developed,
> for testing purposes.
> *Cheers*
> *Chris ADAM *
>
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> Am Mittwoch, Januar 31, 2024, 01:23 schrieb Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <
> crispinpigott at outlook.com>:
>
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> Dear Teddy
>
> Charcoal movement (distribution) has been banned since 2017 and it may in
> fact be illegal to make it, I am not sure, but in the beginning it was
> movement that was traceable and banned.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.the-star.co.ke/sasa/lifestyle/2023-11-03-why-kenya-cannot-do-away-with-charcoal/
>
>
>
> It is important to understand why national bans on a popular fuel are
> important.  When it is illegal to make or move charcoal, the charcoal mafia
> benefits, often including elected or influential officials and enforcement
> actors.
>
>
>
> In a Sahelian country charcoal was illegal. It was unbanned and the
> forests were placed under the control of the villages whose land it was.
> The illegal traders were immediately put out of business unless they paid
> for the resource they were stealing, and the management of the supply of
> trees immediately benefitted the community as a payment had to be made to
> the village. This continued with great and well managed success. The
> villages conserved and sold their resources and the “overheads”
> disappeared.
>
> After 4 years the President declared the whole business illegal again
> (through protesting salvationists?) and the illegal trade resumed.  It
> transpired that the head of the charcoal mafia, all along, was the
> president’s wife.
>
> Charcoal is big, big business.  Removing carbon from the land and burning
> it 100 km away depletes the soil.  Char created on the land and buried in
> it depletes the soil carbon because it goes from a soluble form to an
> insoluble form.  Should the composted stover be ploughed into the land for
> next year’s crop?  We have to hear from botanists.
>
> As trees are cleared for farming, it dries the air and rainfall
> decreases.  That has been known for over a century, but it will of course
> be blamed on global warming.  Afforestation in Kenya was proposed in the
> 1930’s by Dr St Barbe Baker, famed for his Men of the Trees organization.
> And he attempted it in the NW using peach trees.  Kenya could use
> afforestation and reforestation as well as sustainable supply management.
> People are going to continue to cook with charcoal for decades or centuries
> in Africa.  We should arrange our affairs that it is possible and
> profitable.
>
> BTW charcoal making is one of the few activities in Africa that generates
> cash income for rural farmers.  Banning it effectively means banning them
> as viable farmers.
>
> Regards
>
> Crispin
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Stoves <stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> *On Behalf Of *Cookswell
> Jikos
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2024 7:10 AM
>
> Here is an interesting idea to utilize highly invasive woody plants to
> make biochar you might like Kevin,
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI1uN1EFhUI&ab_channel=PlantVillageTV
>
>
>
> Wonders never cease to amaze in the woodfuel industry in Kenya, I went to
> a salt factory a few months ago and they said they use 30 tons of almost
> wet (!!) wood per day sourced by clearing land for pineapple farmers to
> force dry the salt (co-fired with TZ coal) and almost every other large
> industry that uses steam in Kenya seems to be switching to biomass boilers
> these days that are mostly using agri-waste (alot of which is grown on
> farms that were once forested not so long ago). Agroforestry is growing in
> popularity but not as fast as trees are being felled
> https://news.mongabay.com/2023/11/deforestation-continues-in-kenyas-largest-water-capturing-forest-satellites-show
> and meanwhile watch out for your maize stalks, they might be next ;)
> https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/enterprise/eldoret-family-turns-maize-cobs-into-jet-fuel-addictive-3700610
>
>
>
>
> I sure hope that this new industrial demand for biomass and unplanned
> agricultural expansion doesn't wipe out any forest saving gains all the
> various cookstove projects have had in Kenya over the years. Speaking of,
> might anyone know how many donor funded 'cookstove projects' have there
> been in Kenya in the last 40 years?
>
>
> Teddy
>
>
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