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Philip,<br>
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Outdated statistics. Not 1.4 million. The W.H.O. quotes 1.6
million every year.<br>
<br>
<a
href="http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs292/en/index.html">http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs292/en/index.html</a><br>
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<h1 class="storyPage" style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold;
margin: 1em 0px; color: rgb(79, 140, 193);">Indoor air
pollution and health</h1>
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<h3 class="sectionHead2" style="font-size: 11px; font-weight:
bold; margin: 1em 0px; color: rgb(204, 102, 0);">Scope of the
problem</h3>
</span></span><big><big><big><big><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
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class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:
Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">"<big><big>More
than half of the world’s population rely on dung,
wood, crop waste or coal to meet their most basic
energy needs. Cooking and heating with such solid
fuels on open fires or stoves without chimneys leads
to indoor air pollution... <big><big><br>
</big></big></big></big></span></span><big><big><big><big><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:
separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times
New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant:
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font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-family:
Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:
11px;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"></span><big><big>Exposure
is particularly high among women and
children, who spend the most time near the
domestic hearth.</big></big></span></span></big></big></big></big></big></big></big></big><big><big><big><big><big><big><big><big><span
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New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant:
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font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-family:
Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:
11px;"><big> <big><i><b>Every year</b></i></big></big></span></span></big></big></big></big></big></big></big></big><big><big><big><big><big><big><big><big><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:
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font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-family:
Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:
11px;"><big><big>, <b>indoor air pollution</b>
is responsible for the death of <b>1.6
million</b> people - that's one death
every 20 seconds.</big></big></span></span></big></big></big></big></big></big></big></big>"<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72"> Lloyd Helferty, Engineering Technologist
Principal, Biochar Consulting (Canada)
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Skype: lloyd.helferty
Steering Committee member, Canadian Biochar Initiative
President, Co-founder & CBI Liaison, Biochar-Ontario
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On 10/31/2010 3:05 PM, Philip Lloyd wrote:
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cite="mid:43042054078849848AA9C7CE1928637E@yourd42ef0fb29"
type="cite">
<pre wrap="">"All,
Where are there studies that document the illness and loss of life from
cooking over open fires? We all quote the 1.4 million deaths per year but
what is that information based on? Where is the source documentation? Is
there information to document improvements from stoves?
Thanks
Tom
T R Miles Technical Consultants, Inc.
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">tmiles@trmiles.com</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.bioenergylists.org">www.bioenergylists.org</a>"
It is a world health organisation publication of ~2003, looking at the
sources of mortality worldwide.
(Dr) Philip Lloyd Pr Eng
Industrial & Petrochemical Consultants
IPC House, 54 Alma Road
Rosebank, W Cape 7700
South Africa
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2. Documenting Health effects of cooking with open fires (Tom Miles)
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4. Coal Heater (Jeff Davis)
5. Chimneys (Joyce Lockard)
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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 12:48:50 -0700
From: "Tom Miles" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com"><tmiles@trmiles.com></a>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com"><biochar@yahoogroups.com></a>
Cc: 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'
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We need experiments for high school science students to make and use
biochar.
Kelpie and Christa have provided good instructions for small biochar stoves
for students wanting to learn about biochar:
How to Make the Dome School Biochar stove, Kelpie wilson
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://greenyourhead.typepad.com/files/how-to-make-dome-school-biochar-stove">http://greenyourhead.typepad.com/files/how-to-make-dome-school-biochar-stove</a>
.pdf
Basic Design Principles of the Pyrolytic TLUD Gasifier Stove in 2010 Bq
Demonstrations, or "How many sausages can you grill in the process of making
30g of biochar? Christa Roth
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/files/2010%20biochar-bq%20demonstration">http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/files/2010%20biochar-bq%20demonstration</a>
%20by%20Christa%20Roth.pdf
What student projects can demonstrate the ability of biochar to capture
nutrients and retain them for plant growth?
Nutrient capture: are there simple leaching or column tests where students
can filter a known concentration of fertilizer elements through samples of
soil with and without biochar and directly measure the concentration in the
filtrate using something like a specific ion electrode or conductivity
tester e.g. K or nitrates, or heavy metals like Pb, or Cd?
Greenhouse/pot tests: can the students then test the same media with and
without biochar in pot tests?
A students recently asked if there is a way that she can measure the amount
of carbon in biochar that will be available for carbon sequestration. Any
examples or ideas?
Thanks
Tom
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All,
Where are there studies that document the illness and loss of life from
cooking over open fires? We all quote the 1.4 million deaths per year but
what is that information based on? Where is the source documentation? Is
there information to document improvements from stoves?
Thanks
Tom
T R Miles Technical Consultants, Inc.
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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:35:20 -0400
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Dear Tom
I am pretty sure the source is Kirk Smith. Another person who is very up on
the subject is Jostein Nygard <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jnygard@worldbank.org">jnygard@worldbank.org</a> who has made
calculations for whole countries including China.
It is possible Steinar Larssen <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:stlarssen@hotmail.com">stlarssen@hotmail.com</a> is quite au fait with
backgrounders and even the calculation methods.
Regards
Crispin
Subject: [Stoves] Documenting Health effects of cooking with open fires
All,
Where are there studies that document the illness and loss of life from
cooking over open fires? We all quote the 1.4 million deaths per year but
what is that information based on? Where is the source documentation? Is
there information to document improvements from stoves?
Thanks
Tom
T R Miles Technical Consultants, Inc.
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">tmiles@trmiles.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.trmiles.com">www.trmiles.com</a>
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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 00:55:35 -0400
From: Jeff Davis <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jeff0124@velocity.net"><jeff0124@velocity.net></a>
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
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Dear Crispin,
Is a coal fired hydronic heater with flue pipe out of line?
Best regards,
Jeff
On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 07:36 -0400, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Interesting problem. We need a 2 kW stove for heating an super
insulated ger. There is no such thing at the moment as a clean
burning 2 kW coal stove. I am thinking of trying a fan stove.
r
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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 07:53:32 -0700
From: "Joyce Lockard" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rj.lockard@frontier.com"><rj.lockard@frontier.com></a>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org"><stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org></a>
Subject: [Stoves] Chimneys
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Why is no one talking about chimneys that get rid of the CO safely? And
doesn't the addition of a chimney change the dynamics of any stove?
Joyce M Lockard
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rj.lockard@frontier.com">rj.lockard@frontier.com</a>
503-533-4190 Home
503-201-9548 Cell
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