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<p class="MsoFooter"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: 110%; font-family: MyriadPro-BoldIt; color: navy;">The UNDP/WHO 2009 report, <i style="">The Energy
Access Situation in Developing Countries, A Review Focusing on the Least
Developed Countries and Sub-Saharan Africa</i>, can be downloaded from </span></b><a href="http://www.undp.org/"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: 110%; font-family: MyriadPro-BoldIt; color: navy; text-decoration: none;">http://www.undp.org/</span></b></a><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; line-height: 110%; font-family: MyriadPro-BoldIt; color: navy;">energy</span></b></p>
<br>The problem is that these figures from the WHO are extremely conservatve, and only relate to direct death caused from cooking smoke as referenced in multiple independant studies. Primarily this is pneumonia in children under 5, COPD and lung cancer (especially with coal). It does not, however, include the related deaths. So, for example, if your TB is made significantly worse by smoke inhalation and you subsequently die, this death is not recorede in absolute terms or in loss of years as a smoke consequence. Other involved studies are not included in these figures as they are simply not backed up by enough other studies, there must be 15 - 20 studies shown hence only 3 main related sicknesses. Athsma, cateracts, still births and perinatal mortality as well as other respitory and heart issues are all linked by study, but not backed up enough to have as published figures. See page 48 of the above paper. Cateracts, for example, will cause significant
loss of welfare in a community, but rarely kill...and so on. The figure, all inclusive could be as high as 6 million per year, but that is difficult to prove exactly.<br><br>Hope this helps, depressing as it is.<br><br>Dave<br><br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 31/10/10, Lloyd Helferty <i><lhelferty@sympatico.ca></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Lloyd Helferty <lhelferty@sympatico.ca><br>Subject: Re: [Stoves] Stoves Digest, Vol 2, Issue 26<br>To: plloyd@mweb.co.za, "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><br>Date: Sunday, 31 October, 2010,
20:54<br><br><div id="yiv679295584yiv888252633">
Philip,<br>
<br>
Outdated statistics. Not 1.4 million. The W.H.O. quotes 1.6
million every year.<br>
<br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs292/en/index.html">http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs292/en/index.html</a><br>
<br>
<span class="yiv679295584yiv888252633Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="yiv679295584yiv888252633Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">
<h1 class="yiv679295584yiv888252633storyPage" style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; margin: 1em 0px; color: rgb(79, 140, 193);">Indoor air
pollution and health</h1>
</span></span><span class="yiv679295584yiv888252633Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="yiv679295584yiv888252633Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">
<h3 class="yiv679295584yiv888252633sectionHead2" style="font-size: 11px; font-weight: bold; margin: 1em 0px; color: rgb(204, 102, 0);">Scope of the
problem</h3>
</span></span><big><big><big><big><span class="yiv679295584yiv888252633Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="yiv679295584yiv888252633Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">"<big><big>More
than half of the world’s population rely on dung,
wood, crop waste or coal to meet their most basic
energy needs. Cooking and heating with such solid
fuels on open fires or stoves without chimneys leads
to indoor air pollution... <big><big><br>
</big></big></big></big></span></span><big><big><big><big><span class="yiv679295584yiv888252633Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="yiv679295584yiv888252633Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px;"><span class="yiv679295584yiv888252633Apple-converted-space"></span><big><big>Exposure
is particularly high among women and
children, who spend the most time near the
domestic hearth.</big></big></span></span></big></big></big></big></big></big></big></big><big><big><big><big><big><big><big><big><span class="yiv679295584yiv888252633Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="yiv679295584yiv888252633Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px;"><big> <big><i><b>Every year</b></i></big></big></span></span></big></big></big></big></big></big></big></big><big><big><big><big><big><big><big><big><span class="yiv679295584yiv888252633Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
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is responsible for the death of <b>1.6
million</b> people - that's one death
every 20 seconds.</big></big></span></span></big></big></big></big></big></big></big></big>"<br>
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<pre class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-signature"> Lloyd Helferty, Engineering Technologist<br> Principal, Biochar Consulting (Canada)<br> <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated" target="_blank" href="http://www.biochar-consulting.ca">www.biochar-consulting.ca</a><br> 603-48 Suncrest Blvd, Thornhill, ON, Canada<br> 905-707-8754; 647-886-8754 (cell)<br> Skype: lloyd.helferty<br> Steering Committee member, Canadian Biochar Initiative<br> President, Co-founder & CBI Liaison, Biochar-Ontario<br> Advisory Committee Member, IBI<br> <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1404717">http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1404717</a><br> <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank"
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<pre>"All,<br><br> <br><br>Where are there studies that document the illness and loss of life from<br>cooking over open fires? We all quote the 1.4 million deaths per year but<br>what is that information based on? Where is the source documentation? Is<br>there information to document improvements from stoves?<br><br> <br><br>Thanks<br><br> <br><br>Tom <br><br> <br><br>T R Miles Technical Consultants, Inc.<br><br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated">tmiles@trmiles.com</a><br><br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated" target="_blank" href="http://www.trmiles.com">www.trmiles.com</a><br><br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated" target="_blank" href="http://www.bioenergylists.org">www.bioenergylists.org</a>"<br><br>It is a world health organisation publication of ~2003, looking at<br> the<br>sources of mortality worldwide.<br><br><br>(Dr)
Philip Lloyd Pr Eng<br>Industrial & Petrochemical Consultants<br>IPC House, 54 Alma Road<br>Rosebank, W Cape 7700<br>South Africa<br>Tel/fax/messages +27 (0)21 689 1386<br>Mobile +27 (0)83 441 5247<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated">stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>[<a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-freetext">mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] On Behalf Of<br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated">stoves-request@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:00 PM<br>To: <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>Subject: Stoves Digest, Vol 2, Issue 26<br><br>Send Stoves mailing list submissions to<br> <a rel="nofollow"
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for Science<br> Students (Tom Miles)<br> 2. Documenting Health effects of cooking with open fires (Tom Miles)<br> 3. Re: Documenting Health effects of cooking with open fires<br> (Crispin Pemberton-Pigott)<br> 4. Coal Heater (Jeff Davis)<br> 5. Chimneys (Joyce Lockard)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 12:48:50 -0700<br>From: "Tom Miles" <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><tmiles@trmiles.com></a><br>To: <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><biochar@yahoogroups.com></a><br>Cc: 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'<br> <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org></a><br>Subject: [Stoves] Biochar Projects for Science Students<br>Message-ID: <006801cb786b$7ad081f0$707185d0$@com><br>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>We need experiments for high school science students to make and use<br>biochar. <br><br> <br><br>Kelpie and Christa have provided good instructions for small biochar stoves<br>for students wanting to learn about biochar:<br><br>How to Make the Dome School Biochar stove, Kelpie wilson<br><br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://greenyourhead.typepad.com/files/how-to-make-dome-school-biochar-stove">http://greenyourhead.typepad.com/files/how-to-make-dome-school-biochar-stove</a><br>.pdf<br><br> <br><br>Basic Design Principles of the Pyrolytic TLUD Gasifier Stove in 2010<br> Bq<br>Demonstrations, or "How many sausages can you grill in the process of making<br>30g of biochar? Christa Roth<br><br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank"
href="http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/files/2010%20biochar-bq%20demonstration">http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/files/2010%20biochar-bq%20demonstration</a><br>%20by%20Christa%20Roth.pdf<br><br> <br><br>What student projects can demonstrate the ability of biochar to capture<br>nutrients and retain them for plant growth?<br><br> <br><br>Nutrient capture: are there simple leaching or column tests where students<br>can filter a known concentration of fertilizer elements through samples of<br>soil with and without biochar and directly measure the concentration in the<br>filtrate using something like a specific ion electrode or conductivity<br>tester e.g. K or nitrates, or heavy metals like Pb, or Cd?<br><br> <br><br>Greenhouse/pot tests: can the students<br> then test the same media with and<br>without biochar in pot tests? <br><br> <br><br>A students recently asked if there is a way that she can measure the amount<br>of carbon in biochar that
will be available for carbon sequestration. Any<br>examples or ideas?<br><br> <br><br>Thanks<br><br> <br><br>Tom <br><br> <br><br>T R Miles Technical Consultants, Inc.<br><br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated" target="_blank" href="http://www.trmiles.com">www.trmiles.com</a><br><br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated" target="_blank" href="http://www.biochar.bioenergylists.org">www.biochar.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br> <br><br> <br><br> <br><br> <br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" target="_blank"
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open fires? We all quote the 1.4 million deaths per year but<br>what is that information based on? Where is the source documentation? Is<br>there information to document improvements from stoves?<br><br> <br><br>Thanks<br><br> <br><br>Tom <br><br> <br><br>T R Miles Technical Consultants, Inc.<br><br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated">tmiles@trmiles.com</a><br><br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated" target="_blank" href="http://www.trmiles.com">www.trmiles.com</a><br><br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated" target="_blank" href="http://www.bioenergylists.org">www.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br> <br><br> <br><br> <br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" target="_blank"
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Tom<br><br> <br><br>I am pretty sure the source is Kirk Smith. Another person who is very up on<br>the subject is Jostein Nygard <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated">jnygard@worldbank.org</a> who has made<br>calculations for<br> whole countries including China.<br><br> <br><br>It is possible Steinar Larssen <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated">stlarssen@hotmail.com</a> is quite au fait with<br>backgrounders and even the calculation methods.<br><br> <br><br>Regards<br><br>Crispin<br><br> <br><br> <br><br>Subject: [Stoves] Documenting Health effects of cooking with open fires<br><br> <br><br>All,<br><br> <br><br>Where are there studies that document the illness and loss of life from<br>cooking over open fires? We all quote the 1.4 million deaths per year but<br>what is that information based on? Where is the source documentation? Is<br>there information to document improvements
from stoves?<br><br> <br><br>Thanks<br><br> <br><br>Tom <br><br> <br><br>T R Miles Technical Consultants, Inc.<br><br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated">tmiles@trmiles.com</a><br><br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated" target="_blank" href="http://www.trmiles.com">www.trmiles.com</a><br><br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-abbreviated" target="_blank" href="http://www.bioenergylists.org">www.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br> <br><br> <br><br> <br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv679295584yiv888252633moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" target="_blank"
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<pre>Interesting problem. We need a 2 kW stove for heating an super<br>insulated ger. There is no such thing at the moment as a clean<br>burning 2 kW coal stove. I am thinking of trying a fan stove.<br>r<br><br></pre>
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