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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ron,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It is a good find. I remember studying this document when we
were trying to develop an online database of stoves and stove designs. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>GTZ has many interesting and useful documents. I don't think we
ever put it on the Stoves site. I remember that they were constantly changing
their websites so simply linking to documents didn't work very well. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The list started in about 1996. Alex English started the stoves
website in about 1997. We took it over a few years later. We still have your
early (1996) discussions about making clay or tincanium charcoal making stoves
with Alex English, Elsen Karstad and Richard Boyt. (Tagging the stories with
the right links so they can be found is always a challenge.) <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>A good candidate is from Alex english:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>The Curvacious Charcoal Making Wood Gas Burning Stove (AE's
latest test, Sept 11/97)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>http://www.bioenergylists.org/content/curvacious-charcoal-making-wood-gas-burning-stove<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>http://www.bioenergylists.org/taxonomy/term/769<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Searching by Author works:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>http://www.bioenergylists.org/contributors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Tom<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
rongretlarson@comcast.net [mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 06, 2010 1:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> scda2@t-online.de; Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Tom Miles<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] Discovered an interesting 90 pages gtz publication
on stoves all over the world<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Chris
(cc list and Tom):<br>
<br>
1. Thanks for forwarding this link (below), which is a new
one for me. There are 2 earlier portions, that can be downloaded as well
by changing your "3" below to "1" and "2"
There are many more than 90 pages. Must be over 5 MB in total.<br>
<br>
2. This is one of the top books on stoves I have ever
seen. Amazingly complete for contents around the world. Many excellent
citations - and wonderful photos.<br>
<br>
3. This is to ask Tom Miles if he had previously seen
this - and if it is somewhere in his huge list of resources. I just
looked <br>
(example:
http://www.bioenergylists.org/search/node/1995)<br>
<br>
and couldn't find it. I am wondering how/why it never made it into the
"stoves" list discussions. (Or maybe it did - it should
have.) It proves (??) we are not a sufficiently all-inclusive community.<br>
<br>
4. As good as I find it (for 1995), I don't think
there is anything in it of value today to almost anyone on this list. The
"stoves" list started within a year after this publication -
mainly at first talking of charcoal-making stoves. I cannot find (but I
didn't look real closely - hope I am wrong) anything on charcoal-making
(top-lit TLUD - or even BLDD), much less the material on Tom's
"stoves" list since 2007 (2008?) of TLOD stoves.<br>
<br>
5. So can anyone point me to anything in this
(wonderful historical) document that will be of use in working today on
improved stoves? (The need is certainly shown in this book.)<br>
<br>
<br>
Part B. Chris' website:<br>
<br>
1. I had not been for some time to your website.
You have done some very nice work. Congratulations.<br>
<br>
2. I have earlier seen "Biocoal" used in Germany
in preference to "Biochar". Can you give a rationale for the
German preference for "coal" over "char" when coupled
with "Bio"?<br>
<br>
Ron<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Chris Adam" <scda2@ymail.com><br>
To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><br>
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2010 11:24:23 AM<br>
Subject: [Stoves] Discovered an interesting 90 pages gtz publication
on stoves all over the world<br>
<br>
Discovered an interesting 90 pages gtz publication on stoves all over<br>
the world.... ("Stoves Images 1995"):<br>
<br>
http://www.gtz.de/de/dokumente/en-stove-images3-1995.pdf<br>
<br>
My MFBO (Multi Fuel Bread Oven) is also mentioned on page 39/166:<br>
http://biocoal.org/9.html<br>
<br>
cheers<br>
Chris ADAM<br>
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