<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Andrew - One objection to your remarks below. <br><br> As our "stoves" list coordinator, you are expected/allowed to "judge". Ranting is probably to be avoided, but more allowable for you than anyone else. <br><br> I somehow missed (or forgot) this video (cite below) from Nat. Do you think that was up in 2008? It explains all the key terms - the most important being "venturi".- not a part of any TLUD - the patentable feature of the Lucia .<br><br>Do you have charcoal-making weather yet in London?<br><br>Ron<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: ajheggie@gmail.com<br>To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><br>Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2010 1:44:39 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Stoves] Disapprovals about being too closed. Re: Air supply in TLUDs<br><br>On Sunday 05 December 2010 20:12:46 rongretlarson@comcast.net wrote:<br>> Paul and ccs (adding "Biochar-policy")<br>><br>> I like all parts of your message below with one exception - thank you<br>> for being blunt. The exception is your statement that World Stove<br>> (Nathaniel Mulcahy) is acting like the other four in your<br>> five-corporation secrecy list. Today, Nat recommended a new video that<br>> I found clever but in no way informative about the technical side of<br>> his stove operations. But while looking at the new one, I saw this<br>> other 1:37 minute video about the Lucia:<br>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zefrhc8kgM&NR=1&feature=fvwp<br><br>I thought it a good rant too, but not being one of the protagonists I make <br>no judgement.<br><br>Plainly if the stakes are getting higher then independently verified <br>testing methods become more important but these devices are simple, even <br>Nat's video shows this. His device is exceptional in being so well <br>engineered and crafte. Any bright engineer is likely able to come up to <br>speed on the subject within weeks.<br><br>BTW Ron, Nat pointed [stoves] to the link above soon after we met him in <br>Newcastle.<br><br>AJH<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Stoves mailing list<br><br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br>Stoves mailing list<br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br>http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org<br><br>for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br>http://www.bioenergylists.org/<br>Stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org<br></div></body></html>