<html><head><base href="x-msg://112/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Its amazing what gets overlooked when you are thinking of practical applications in the developing nations. <div>The curious part is that it is hailed as a Japanese invention then in Ross link it turns up as owned by ...<img id="4a7f0b68-16a2-4f83-acf8-2bde3f07ca27" height="104" width="461" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:FDECAA21-6D15-415E-8B71-F8443A44DB6A@domain.actdsltmp"></div><div><br></div><div>Wikipedia cites all kinds of previous patents dating from 1939 in the states at least. Is this proprietary anymore ? </div><div><br></div><div>Yet it has been whisked by the 90% of the rest of the planet, subsumed by 'modern waste management and recycling', leaving that 90% in the garbage heap...albeit surrounded by plastic products /plastic making technologies from the first world...</div><div><br></div><div>What if for every product sold, the seller had to provide for its recovery and reuse in its present--or original form...</div><div><br></div><div>Lets pretend we had to try to make use of it..for use by that 90% . Diesel no 2 oil works fine in most diesel trucks, agricultural tractors and some of the older cars and most certainly in the older lister style thumper engines used ubiquitously in the thirs world for electrical power and water pumping...</div><div><br></div><div>Diesel no two from corporate petroleum costs at least 6 USD as foreign exchange a gallon in much of africa when you can get it too..</div><div><br></div><div>I just wonder what form would it take..Maybe it is too tricky to operate but then so is a still which is found everywhere in every culture. </div><div><br></div><div>Hmm, ..2 steps backward; three steps forward..</div><div><br></div><div>Richard Stanley</div><div> <br><div><div>On Jan 15, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-CA" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Dear Friends<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">If the oil can be characterised (which would depend on the plastics) a burner tuned to those parameters could be made – something like a low pressure paraffin stove for example.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I am wondering based on the screw caps if it runs at a substantial positive pressure. I am willing to be he puts in water first….<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Regards<br>Crispin<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">++++++++</span><br>You can buy a complete plant if you want: (In the US:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.polymerenergy.com/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.polymerenergy.com/</a>; In europe:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://207.57.92.209/wordpress/?page_id=7" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://207.57.92.209/wordpress/?page_id=7</a>) Ozmotech's claim to fame is that they spent a couple of years making the resultant oil suitable for on-the-road use in 1st world environments. Like gasification, it sounds like something which is trivially easy to accomplish in rough form, but very tricky to do correctly.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Stoves mailing list<br><br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br>Stoves mailing list<br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br><a href="http://www.bioenergylists.org/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.bioenergylists.org/</a><br><a href="mailto:Stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>