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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Dear David</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>"Beautiful and simple, like all truly great inventions."
:-)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Kevin</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=celsius4u@hotmail.com href="mailto:celsius4u@hotmail.com">David
Osborne</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:28
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Stoves] Stoves Digest, Vol
6, Issue 17</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Dear Sirs, <BR>I dearly would like to update you all on the
progression of the Jompy boiler. We have conducted local testing in East &
South Africa as well as Southern India and UK camping markets. Both the
cultural needs and the functionality have been tested and accepted as
extremely beneficial to the users. We have also conducted two papers by
Glasgow University, one on the carbon viability and the other on a health and
social impact study, we aim to show these reports and gain a definate footing
in the carbon market. We already have distribution sorted in South Africa and
Kenya. We have manufacturing in order and have sufficient capacity
with expansion available. We ask the stover community to look at
our videos on our website and asses.
<BR><BR>www.jompy.co.uk<BR><BR>A special hello to Paul Anderson and Karsten
Betchel who know about the jompy boiler. <BR><BR>> From:
stoves-request@lists.bioenergylists.org<BR>> Subject: Stoves Digest, Vol 6,
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<BR>> Message: 1<BR>> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:25:09 -0500<BR>>
From: Richard Stanley <rstanley@legacyfound.org><BR>> To: Discussion
of biomass cooking stoves<BR>>
<stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><BR>> Subject: Re: [Stoves] Stoves
Digest, Vol 6, Issue 14<BR>> Message-ID:
<5A19D8FF-1100-4D8B-84BC-37CD9980E956@legacyfound.org><BR>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<BR>> <BR>> Jim, <BR>>
tried this 6 months ago and it has since expanded about 25% <BR>> Good idea
though. Just have to find the time !<BR>> Richard<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
On Feb 20, 2011, at 9:12 PM, jim mason wrote:<BR>> <BR>> >>
<BR>> >> Message: 1<BR>> >> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:21:29
-0800<BR>> >> From: Richard Stanley
<rstanley@legacyfound.org><BR>> >> To: fuelbriquetting
<fuelbriquetting@googlegroups.com>, Stoves and<BR>> >> biofuels
network <Stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><BR>> >> Subject:
[Stoves] Fwd: Briquette Mini press.mp4<BR>> >> Message-ID:
<C2CEE8D4-EF2B-41CA-845B-48BFA821AB81@legacyfound.org><BR>> >>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR>> >> <BR>>
>> Hello all,<BR>> >> <BR>> >> Just a quick note to
announce a new press which we have developed in collaboration with Rok Oblak
<mbdulastoves@wordpress.com>.<BR>> >> <BR>> >> We will
soon have the plans for it for purchase through our website and Rok and I will
both develop the capacity to supply it in bulk for emergency/ disaster releif
assistance efforts.<BR>> >> <BR>> >> We are also seeking
collaborants around the globe for production of it to their respective nations
and regions to respond to their local demand. We have identified collaborants
for Tanzania and South africa to date...which leaves a pretty wide open list
at this point.<BR>> >> At about 30 seconds per 130 gram 550 cc
briquette, per one operator, its probably amongst the more productive presses
out there but it is also made of metal and requires welding and some attention
to tolerances...<BR>> >> <BR>> >> But before you deluge Rok
and I with orders, there are about 20 other press options to choose from by
now-- according to one's own needs, the kind of blends one is intent upon
using, and the resources and skills for fabricating and maintaining the press,
so let the best option prevail.<BR>> >> <BR>> >> Now that I
have almost thoroughly unsold it, enjoy,<BR>> >> <BR>> >>
Richard Stanley<BR>> >> www.legacyfound.org<BR>> >>
NWObamland<BR>> >> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > richard.
this looks great. congratulations on getting through the<BR>> > many
details of design. and great t hear you have options for<BR>> >
distributed manufacturing of it.<BR>> > <BR>> > on your other
comment, have you or any other locals here put together<BR>> > an index
of current briquetting and pelleting machinery for relatively<BR>> > low
cost use? it would be great to have an index of both manual and<BR>> >
driven briquetting currently available machinery.<BR>> > <BR>> >
also, nice slide in the background!<BR>> > <BR>> > j<BR>> >
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<BR>> Message: 2<BR>> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:08:01 -0500<BR>>
From: Richard Stanley <rstanley@legacyfound.org><BR>> To: Discussion
of biomass cooking stoves<BR>>
<stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><BR>> Subject: Re: [Stoves] Fwd:
Happy New year 2011<BR>> Message-ID:
<7BBBB560-4561-4D45-B7A5-D55B0EA42B15@legacyfound.org><BR>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<BR>> <BR>> Dear
Sarbagyaji,<BR>> Namaskar,<BR>> Thanks for your interest on briquetting
in Bhairawa. I will be arriving in Nepal only on April 13, 2011.<BR>>
<BR>> Sanu Kaji Shrestha<BR>> <BR>> On Feb 22, 2011, at 6:14 AM,
Sarbagya Tuladhar wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > Hi to all,<BR>> >
<BR>> > I am at the moment based in Bhairahawa working as a stove
design<BR>> > engineer for EWB Australia along with a local NGO NAMUNA.
We are<BR>> > working on designing a clean dung based cooking stove for
the local<BR>> > community here. The community here are entirely
dependent on dung as a<BR>> > fuel for cooking purpose. I have been
working with "washing" the dung<BR>> > before using as a fuel to remove
the toxic gases in the fuel. After<BR>> > the process of "washing"
briquetting the dung is the next step. I<BR>> > would certainly be
meeting up with Mr. Sanu Kaji Shrestha in Kathmandu<BR>> > during the
first week of March. I am certain that his valuable<BR>> > expertise
will benefit me immensely. It would also be great to keep in<BR>> >
touch with Ranju Pandey. Does anyone know when the conference in Peru<BR>>
> concludes and Mr Sanu Kaji is back in ktm...<BR>> > <BR>> >
Best Regards,<BR>> > Sarbagya Tuladhar<BR>> > EWB
Australia<BR>> > Stove Design Engineer<BR>> > <BR>> > On
2/21/11, Richard Stanley <rstanley@legacyfound.org> wrote:<BR>>
>> Greetings Ranjit,<BR>> >> I am right now on Peru at the PCIA
conference with Sanu Kaji of the FoST<BR>> >> organization based in
Thamel !<BR>> >> He is the best person to respond to you concerning
briquette making in<BR>> >> Nepal. The stoves and biofuels network is
also a very good technical<BR>> >> resource for discussion of
possible emissions issues. I have ccy'd them as<BR>> >> well to
introduce you.<BR>> >> Warm greetings to your family from Joyce and
myself.<BR>> >> Regards,<BR>> >> Richard<BR>> >>
<BR>> >> Sent from my iPhone<BR>> >> <BR>> >> Begin
forwarded message:<BR>> >> <BR>> >>> From: Ranju Pandey
<ranjupandey@yahoo.com><BR>> >>> Date: February 21, 2011
3:36:45 AM GMT-05:00<BR>> >>> To: Richard Stanley
<rstanley@legacyfound.org><BR>> >>> Subject: Re: Happy New
year 2011<BR>> >>> <BR>> >> <BR>> >>> Hello
Sir<BR>> >>> Sorry for the late reply .Busy with alot of work in
office , field visit<BR>> >>> to Okhaldhunga(mid hilly area of the
country) where we are implementing<BR>> >>> the project. We have
just installed the oil expeller in one rural village<BR>> >>>
named Manibhanjyan. Since the collection of Jatropha seed is going on
and<BR>> >>> they also expell the seed and obtain the oil and seed
cake too . They use<BR>> >>> seed cake for the fertilizer and it
can be also used as brequette and used<BR>> >>> as fuel for
cooking too.<BR>> >>> Therefore I want to know is it possible to
make brequette from the seed<BR>> >>> cake and if it is possible
than we can produce biofuel and brequette<BR>> >>> too.Then if we
can do it than the rural farmer will be more benefited<BR>> >>>
from the project.<BR>> >>> Hoping for the suggestion from your
side as you are expert in this<BR>> >>> technology .<BR>>
>>> <BR>> >>> Your sincerely<BR>> >>>
<BR>> >>> Ranju Pandey<BR>> >>> Bio fuel
Manager<BR>> >>> People, Energy and Environment Development
Association (PEEDA)<BR>> >>> Bhanimandal, Ekantakuna<BR>>
>>> Post Box No.8975, EPC 2157<BR>> >>> Kathmandu,
Nepal<BR>> >>> Phone: +977-1-5540792 or 5530337<BR>>
>>> Fax :+977-1-5529873<BR>> >>> e-mail:
ranju@peeda.net<BR>> >>> web: www.peeda.net<BR>> >>>
<BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> From: Richard Stanley
<rstanley@legacyfound.org><BR>> >>> To: Ranju Pandey
<ranjupandey@yahoo.com><BR>> >>> Cc: Kaji Sanu
<fost@ntc.net.np><BR>> >>> Sent: Tue, 11 January, 2011
23:32:30<BR>> >>> Subject: Re: Happy New year 2011<BR>>
>>> <BR>> >>> Ranju,<BR>> >>> Thanks for you
very nice letter which I just received this morning. You<BR>> >>>
ill be making a good contribution. e run or own car a 2006 Volkswagen<BR>>
>>> Passat tdi, on biodiesel here and it feels good to be doing good
things...<BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> Do you know of my
colleague Sanu Kaji who heads the Foundation for<BR>> >>>
Sustainable Technologies no ? I would suggest the next time you are
back<BR>> >>> in Kathmandu, you go over to see his center..You
have a lot in common. He<BR>> >>> does not work with biofuel and
you do not work with briquettes but I<BR>> >>> wouldn't be
surprised if you both take interest in the other technology as<BR>>
>>> a result of your visit !<BR>> >>> <BR>>
>>> I have ccy'd him this note to introduce you to each
other...<BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> All the best in 2011 and
again thanks for your nice letter . I hope your<BR>> >>> family is
all doing well too.<BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> Our christmas
letter is attached.<BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> Richard
Stanley<BR>> >>> Legacyfound.org<BR>> >>> <BR>>
>>> <BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> On Jan 10, 2011, at
11:12 PM, Ranju Pandey wrote:<BR>> >>> <BR>> >>>>
Dear sir ,<BR>> >>>> Happy New Year 2011 for you and your
family .May this year bring alot of<BR>> >>>> joy and happiness
in your life .<BR>> >>>> As far as I am concerned , I return
back from Germany completing my<BR>> >>>> master degree in
Energy and Environment management at the end of<BR>> >>>>
september 2010.<BR>> >>>> At present I am working as a Bio-fuel
Manager in one of the NGO named<BR>> >>>> "People ,Energy and
Environment Development Management (PEEDA)"<BR>> >>>> I am
involved in the Bio-fuel pilot project implemented in Okhaldhunga<BR>>
>>>> ,the rural and remort part of Nepal .<BR>>
>>>> Project is all about using the non edible oil from Jatropha
plants ,for<BR>> >>>> runing the Hospital Generator .<BR>>
>>>> 1st Novemeber onward , I am working in this project .<BR>>
>>>> Once again wishing you a very happy new year to you .<BR>>
>>>> Keep in touch and bye for now<BR>> >>>>
<BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>>> Ranju Pandey<BR>>
>>>> Bio fuel Manager<BR>> >>>> People, Energy and
Environment Development Association (PEEDA)<BR>> >>>>
Bhanimandal, Ekantakuna<BR>> >>>> Post Box No.8975, EPC
2157<BR>> >>>> Kathmandu, Nepal<BR>> >>>> Phone:
+977-1-5540792 or 5530337<BR>> >>>> Fax :+977-1-5529873<BR>>
>>>> e-mail: ranju@peeda.net<BR>> >>>> web:
www.peeda.net<BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>>> <BR>>
>>> <BR>> >>> <BR>> >> <BR>> > <BR>>
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<BR>> Message: 3<BR>> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:39:54 +0000<BR>>
From: Darren Hill <mail@vegburner.co.uk><BR>> To: Discussion of
biomass cooking stoves<BR>> <stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><BR>>
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Building my Heat / cook stove.<BR>> Message-ID:
<4D625D1A.3090102@vegburner.co.uk><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"<BR>> <BR>> Hello Crispin,<BR>>
<BR>> The bleed is at top bypassing the need for gases to go down past the
<BR>> heat exchanger.<BR>> <BR>> Secondary air is flowing in through
some 20mm x 20mm internal diameter <BR>> square section tubing. Is this
enough or do I need more? Another 20mm x <BR>> 20mm square section tube?
More?<BR>> <BR>> I've attached another diagram which shows things as
they are currently <BR>> planned/progressing.<BR>> <BR>> Looking at
this diagram. Are you saying to have some of the grate to <BR>> the left of
the red line I've drawn on the diagram?<BR>> <BR>> Currently this is the
thinnest point (or bottle neck, or throat) and has <BR>> a vertical ceramic
slab either side so that this 'throat' is not the <BR>> full width of the
hopper. Extending the grate further to the left will, <BR>> in effect,
increase the area of the thinnest point. I currently plan to <BR>> have the
lowest part of the grate level with the bottom of the ceramic <BR>> block
(that is the floor of the combustion chamber) so it is away from <BR>> the
thinnest/hottest area.<BR>> <BR>> Is it best to shift the grate to the
left?<BR>> If so what % of the grate left of the red line?<BR>> Should I
also raise the grate so that the its level with the top of the <BR>>
ceramic block that is the floor of the combustion chamber?<BR>> <BR>>
I'm working on the stove today and tomorrow. Going to build the air <BR>>
tight doors today.<BR>> <BR>> Best<BR>> <BR>> Darren<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On 08/02/2011 21:13, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > Dear Darren<BR>> ><BR>> > First
the cast iron grate is about right for the 4 kW (average, not <BR>> >
peak) power you want. I have been trying to make a 4 kW stove that <BR>>
> burned clean and the whole grate area is about 155 x 220 after <BR>>
> discounting the parts that are hiding under shields. What matters is
<BR>> > the volume of coal or wood burning at once. That sets the power
level.<BR>> ><BR>> > I just want to confirm that the bleed hole
takes hot fire gases from <BR>> > the top of the combustion area into
the flue before they go down into <BR>> > the heat exchange, in other
words like a GTZ 7.5 (now to be called a <BR>> > GIZ 7.5 after their
name change).<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > ***** Do people think
this should this provide sufficient secondary <BR>> > air or should I
put another similar secondary inlet in the front of <BR>> > the
burner??? *****<BR>> ><BR>> > Actually I can't see it clearly. How
big is it?<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > >With this 'door' wide
open the bleed hole is 5cm x 10cm<BR>> ><BR>> > That is easily
large enough.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > >My friend had a grate
from an old coal stove that appeared to be a <BR>> > suitable size and
we intend to use - from memory this grate is approx <BR>> > 15cm x 20cm.
Thinking of having the 15cm side in front of the 10cm <BR>> > throat
through into the combustion area.<BR>> ><BR>> > The whole grate
does not need to be under the combusting zone. About ? <BR>> > is
correct to give a crossdraft through the bottom of the fuel in the <BR>>
> hopper.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > >>Based
on the hopper size, and presuming you have about 4 metres of <BR>> >
chimney,<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > >If the chimney was shorter
what would be the effect?<BR>> ><BR>> > Power is related to the
draft, taller chimney means more draft means <BR>> > more power. You can
choke it of course with a damper.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >
>The primary air hole should be 30x120mm? With a valve so its
adjustable?<BR>> ><BR>> > Yes. If you are quite short, it will be
obvious in the thermal <BR>> > efficiency number because too much excess
air (secondary air <BR>> > oversupplied) will give a cool burn and a
high Stack EA (= low <BR>> > efficiency).<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> > >Shes got plenty experience making air tight
doors<BR>> ><BR>> > Good!<BR>> ><BR>> > The Hopper
size:<BR>> ><BR>> > >Am I better reducing dimensions more than
we are talking here?<BR>> > >Throat?<BR>> > >Hopper
area?<BR>> ><BR>> > You can easily slim the hopper by dropping
clay slabs inside it to <BR>> > narrow it. Ditto with the grate
actually.<BR>> ><BR>> > >- or do I not want the entire floor of
the hopper to also be a grate?<BR>> ><BR>> > Yes, almost. As the
air is not rising into the hopper other than <BR>> > enough to get over
to the combustion area, making it too small or too <BR>> > much tucked
under the combustion area will limit the power, maybe to <BR>> > the
point of it not working well. In your drawing you have the grate <BR>> >
nicely angled but stopping before it got under the combustion area. <BR>>
> With the angled grate extending from under the hopper (except perhaps
<BR>> > the bit at the very front) to the back of the combustion area
(the <BR>> > flame runs vertically from there) you can make a crossdraft
fire that <BR>> > is adjustable across a pretty good heat range.<BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> > Perhaps you can make a good drawing in cross
section of what you have now.<BR>> ><BR>> > Regards<BR>>
><BR>> > Crispin<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >
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