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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Fuel, stove and user – three things
that must come together. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I agree with Paal that there should be a practical
test for stove and fuel. My thinking is regarding testing fuel. But my test
methods I packaged up are not simple & practical as they must be sent to a
lab. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Along the lines of what Paal is writing about
I would like to suggest another procedure that could quickly be done in the
field. If we can standardize a ‘Burn Procedure’ that would add fuel
to a fixed sized and designed container with a fixed and agreed upon air flow,
ignite it and make observations. This could be done in the field and using
standard equipment and marking standard observations, we could all discuss the
fuel and stove it has found to work well in. For TLUD fuel we could use glass
containers (light bulb shells) to be able to make the observations we need like
depth of front, evenness of front, rate etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org
[mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Paal wendelbo<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, July 09, 2011
12:46 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Stoves] Re household
cooking</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Dear Tom and Crispin</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Crispin is right. There
is a need of a more practical test in addition to the more academically one,
which sometimes can be difficult for the end user to really understand. # <i><span
style='font-style:italic'>Some people are hopeless at operating a stove </span></i>#,
Crispin said. If the map and the terrain dos not correspond, which one is
wrong? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>There is a need of a
practical test where fuel and stove are evaluated together with the user. If
you are saving some some energy and some minutes in time of cooking, it can
easy be lost by handling the fuel and the stove or by cleaning the pots. The
stove, the fuel and the cook is one unit, working together with respect for
each others specialities.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>With regards Paal W <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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