<html><head></head><body bgcolor='#FFFFFF' style='font-size:12px;background-color:#FFFFFF;font-family:Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;'>Dear Roger,<br/>I had at the point of writing not positively identified you as the person behind "Fireside Hearth". Sorry!<br/><br/>The point that you seem to be missing with your "claims" and "belief" is that a 5 lb extruded log cannot provide 5kW of heat for 14hours. It's plain and simple physically impossible. 200° is relative to the ambient temperature. Unless you're on the S. Pole or on a very high mountain momentarily your ambient temp is highly unlikely around -30 --> 45°C. That explains the long burn time. CO is invisible, so your claim "no visible smoke" is relatively meaningless. I don't care if you're advertising, but if you're going to advertise here, you need to do so with meaningful facts. Meaningful facts would be having some sensor-output with concrete numbers(CO, O2, H2O, CO2, etc. in % and some temperatures would be salient). If I seem negative, it's merely because you continue to refuse giving meaningful information and continue to make claims that are relatively meaningless.<br/><br/>That you firmly believe the stoves in Mongolia are pre-EPA technology flies in the face of the data about the stoves in question that Crispin has already provided you.<br/><br/>I wish you well and hope you succeed with your business, but you'll actually find help here if you will answer questions posed by the long-time members of the list who ask you for specifics.<br/><br/>regards,<br/>Ron<br/>w<br/>h<br/><br/><br/><br/><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 5px; padding-left:5px; padding-top:5px;"><hr/><b>Von:</b> "Fireside Hearth" <firesidehearthvashon@hotmail.com><br/><b>Gesendet:</b> Jul 27, 2011 2:12:18 AM<br/><b>An:</b> stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br/><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Stoves] WorldStove replies to BioFuelWatyche's latestimprecisereporting of facts.<br/><br/><div class="hmmessage"><div>Not sure who the anonymous friend may pertain to, but this is exactly what my stove already does. In fact last night I loaded a 5 lb extruded log into my stove at 8:30 pm, this morning at 10:30 am I was still getting a bit over 200 deg. F. at the cook top. Our stove does this with no visible smoke from our 3" flue after the first 15 minutes +/-. I guess I came across to some folks wrong, as it looked like a sales pitch....it is not. The technology works and works well. I firmly believe that the stoves used in Mongolia for example probably burn like the old pre EPA stoves here in my home town.......at a whopping 20% leaving 80 percent as unburned fuel going up the flue. It's really simple to stop this problem and I think people make it too complex an issue. This is hampering anything from getting done. To prove my theory I need some of the coal being burned in this region for a test.<br/>Should anyone want to write me on this subject I can be reached at firesidehearthvashon@hotmail.com<br/><br/> Thank you.....Roger and Bridget Lehet<br/><br/><div><hr id="stopSpelling"/>Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:18:25 +0100<br/>From: steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk<br/>To: stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br/>Subject: Re: [Stoves] WorldStove replies to BioFuelWatyche's latestimprecisereporting of facts.<br/><br/><br/><br/><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On 26 July 2011 08:02, Ronald Hongsermeier <span><<a href="mailto:rwhongser@web.de">rwhongser@web.de</a>></span> wrote:<br/><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex"><br/>Coal, or any other combustible material has a particular energy content. You can't do anything to get 4 times as much energy value out of it. S</blockquote><div><br/>Hi Ron,<br/><br/>Well you CAN if you burn what you have more efficiently, so that the heat doesn't piddle away up your chimney. I think that's what our anonymous friend may mean.<br/><br/>Steve</div></div><br/>_______________________________________________ Stoves mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: http://www.bioenergylists.org/</div></div></div></blockquote></body></html>