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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I'm somewhere in the middle of trying to make the wide variety of stoves developed and contributed by list members, simpler to view on our accompanying web site, here's the page with some of the design principles:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.bioenergylists.org/en/stove_design">http://www.bioenergylists.org/en/stove_design</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Since I'm actually working with the stove types and descriptions, I thought I'd briefly list the range of projects the list has discussed. There are stoves for heat, stoves for light, a large number of stoves for cooking, ovens for baking, some retained heat cookers and solar options for cooking, boilers of various kinds for heating water, and solutions for inexpensive heat, charcoal production, and to generate power for a fan or LED (light).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>There also tends to be fads or trends of various kinds. Rockets have been popular for a while now, TLUDs are also popular, and biochar making stoves are trending slightly upwards lately, but that's not the limit on the conversation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Optimistically, we our aim is to help those people in the poorer areas of the world with a stove that works better to be able to help them in their daily lives. These needs are varied, cooking is a big one, so is light, so it style (the stove needs to look nice), so is expense (many of the fuels are also a limited resource and can be expensive in terms of time if not money). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Occasionally we draw inspiration from a stove in a wealthy part of the world, to help us design better stoves for the poorer parts of the world, but we've found that there are better places to distribute information about more expensive stoves than our list. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Erin Rasmussen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Stoves Mailing List Administrator, and primary site monkey<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>erin@trmiles.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org [mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Miles<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 28, 2011 1:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] Fire Stump / stump-incuts<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Roger,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If you have mixed both aspects in your design then you should be able to test it using the range of cooking tests (Water Boiling Test, Kitchen Performance Test) and emissions tests that are listed on the PCIA, Stoves and other websites. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The final criteria for developing countries is cost. You can see the cost and other targets on the Global Alliance for Clean Cookstoves site. http://cleancookstoves.org/ <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tom <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>