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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Dear Roger</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=firesidehearthvashon@hotmail.com
href="mailto:firesidehearthvashon@hotmail.com">Fireside Hearth</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 09, 2011 6:16
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Stoves] New US Patent law
change</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Hi D.D.<BR><BR> I would say
then that we are in agreement that patenting my stove is a good
thing?</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial># Only you can answer that
question....</FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial># You could start by asking yourself:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>1: If I do patent my stove, how much will it cost to
patent it, and how much will I earn from it in teh next 17 years?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>2: I I DO NOT patent my stove, how much will I earn from
it over the next 17 years?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>3: If I did patent the stove, and some big company in a
different Cpountry decided to steal the ideas I patented and make stoves,
do I have the money to take them to Court? </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Best wishes,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Kevin</FONT></DIV>
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dir=ltr><BR><BR>
As far as giving away stuff.......right on! I have spent a good a good bit of
time also trying to give good ideas to people all around the globe and asking
nothing in return. Many times the return I get is to hear that my information
was adopted successfully helped people and places I will never even get
to meet. It just sounded from following that particular thread that this
practice is only self serving, I view this practice as a way to ensure that I
will be able to help others.<BR>R<BR><BR></DIV>
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From: Carefreeland@aol.com<BR>Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 17:03:57 -0400<BR>To:
stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<BR>Subject: Re: [Stoves] New US Patent law
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<DIV>In a message dated 9/9/2011 4:22:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
firesidehearthvashon@hotmail.com writes:</DIV>
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<DIV>DD: Dan Dimiduk comments.</DIV>
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face=Tahoma>Max......<BR><BR>
I am genuinely confused by the time spent by this group on the subject of
patents. From what I gather most folks on this list are publicly funded. In
the case of big business, take Boeing for example, if an employee comes up
with a patentable idea on company time........Boeing gets the patent right,
not the inventor. Should the folks funding listers get rights to their
idea's if a patent is awarded an idea?<BR>
In our case we have used my 26 years in this industry serving a community of
14,000 people who were smogging up the air to create a product which can and
will make a big difference on a global scale, and are living well below the
poverty level so we can fund this project ourselves. My dream is to create a
large enough income to be able to devote my life to helping others. Flatly
spoken, I will not be able to help anyone with anything without the
invention becoming successful. I am not a Paul Allen or Bill Gates who has
any interest in 400 foot yachts, or football stadiums which only serve to
make money on the public ignorance. I guess if I were then this conversation
would mean little to me.
<BR> Reading these posts
seems as if my wish to secure a patent is an unpopular thing to do.
Suggestions like kickstarter, and the like, have been both unfruitful as
well as limiting on financial gain. This might help me pay my bills for a
while, but that would be the extent. If everyone who has made comment were
working on a patent then I guess I could understand the time spent on this
issue. If not then I would suggest then anyone publicly funded might find a
better use of public money then to debate a subject such as
this.<BR><BR> Sorry if I didn't get the
point<BR><BR>
Roger<BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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<DIV>DD, Speak for yourself Roger. Some of us are completely self funded, and
have devoted a large portion of our lives to specific projects. While giving
away lots of freebee help to the general public, there are certain projects
enough in demand by industry to warrant caution. It's not only the royalties
I'm worried about it's the ability for large entities to patent around an idea
and keep one from using it to turn a profit.</DIV>
<DIV> I will count on the domination of market to
develop a change in behavior and socioeconomic impact. If the big boys lock
things up, it disallows the licensed smaller entities to flourish and take
away their market share. It's not always as simple or easy as a little twist
on an old idea or new widget. Some ideas are game changers in the larger
scheme of things, and very dangerous in the wrong hands. Large
firms employ experts in industrial espionage. I need something to keep
those coyotes away anyhow.</DIV>
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<DIV> Dan Dimiduk
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