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Thanks Ron and Tom for the additional information.<br>
<br>
If the <b>third APBC meeting</b> will be in Taiwan, I will
definitely want to be there! :-)<br>
<br>
I have been asked to give a presentation in two [2] weeks about
our proposed <i><b>"5ive-Planets" project</b></i>** in Japan at the
<i><b>University of Toronto</b></i> as part of the <b>Science for
Peace</b> (<a href="http://www.scienceforpeace.ca/">http://www.scienceforpeace.ca/</a>)
"<i><b>Human Security Lecture</b></i>" series.<br>
<br>
I need to gather as much information about the current situation
in Japan for this two [2] hour lecture as I can get my hands on, so
I can understand and accurately communicate the capabilities of the
<b>Japanese Biochar producers</b>.<br>
<br>
** The "<i><b>5ive-Planets</b></i>" Japan project is right now
exploring the idea of possibly using Biochar to help "Decontaminate"
the soils around the crippled Nuclear reactors in Fukushima, Japan
by stimulating soil fungi, which may be able to "bio-accumulate"
radionuclides.<br>
(If we harvest and destroy/sequester the resulting mushrooms, one
could begin to physically remove the radioactivity from the soils
and allow for future farming in a compressed timeframe. -- It is our
hope that Biochar will help to stimulate the formation of various
"hyper-accumulating mycorrhizae / mushrooms" that would be harvested
by Robots, thus eliminating most of the human interaction with the
highly radioactive mushrooms as they are harvested and disposed
of... ~ the Japanese expertise with Robots would come in handy
here).<br>
<br>
It is an idea that began with Dr. Paul Stamets "Nuclear Forest
Recovery Zone" project, and is based on some fairly well-known
Phyto-remediaton techniques that were applied elsewhere.<br>
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<br>
We may even be able to utilize the wood debris from the destroyed
buildings and trees in the disaster zone -- chipped, of course. I
am also curious to see if it might be preferable to <b><i>Pyrolyze</i></b>
the mushrooms instead of "Burning the mushrooms" down to
"radioactive ash" (before [safely] disposing of them). I would
expect that the heavy radioisotopes would not vaporize into the
exhaust if <i>pyrolysis</i> was used, as they might be if the
biomass were "incinerated".<br>
<br>
The <i><b>5ive-Planets Foundation</b></i> (registered in Canada)
is also attempting to raise money so that we can study whether
biochar may be able to prevent radionuclides from getting from the
soil and into the roots of plants [and thus the food chain].<br>
We expect that because of Biochar's overall "inert"
characteristics, most heavy metals that are bound to the Biochar
should help to keep them in the soil so they would also not get into
the plants via the roots. (I do not think that this has conclusively
been shown to be the case for all radionuclides, however, and thus
would likely require some study.)<br>
<br>
In addition to Biochar, the <i>5ive-Planets</i> projects also
includes <i><b>Aquaponics</b></i> demonstration projects and other
activities related to <i><b>helping the people of the Tohoku area</b></i>
(see map of the area of Japan affected by the earthquake, tsunami
and nuclear contamination, below).<br>
5ive-Planets will also undertake some studies of a <i><b>biochar/Humic
acid</b></i>*** compound on the <b>salt-contamined</b> lowland
soils of Tohoku that were flooded by the tsunami (~ possibly using
"lignin Biochar" ~ or some other locally produced Biochar that can
be sourced/produced in Japan. We might possibly use the "3R
Agrocarbon"**** processes developed in Hungary if the existing
Biochar production industry in Japan cannot produce sufficient
quantities, as required).<br>
<br>
*** Note: <i><b>bio-oils</b></i> from <b>Fast Pyrolysis</b> also
contain <i><b>Humate Precursors</b></i> may possibly be able to
prevent these non-soluble radionuclides from being transported from
the soil and into roots -- and ultimately into the plants [and food
chain].<br>
<br>
**** Edward Someus noted that his <b>animal bone charcoal biochar</b>
is "<i>the most efficient adsorber of radionuclides</i>" of any
other Biochar (he has tested). (Edward has worked on projects for
Chernobyl.)<br>
<br>
<big><b>"Sunflower Project"</b></big><br>
Another proposal has been to use Biochar-embedded "seedballs*" to
get millions of sunflower seeds into the contaminated areas around
the crippled Nuclear power stations.<br>
*("Seedballs" are an idea of <i><b>Masanobu Fukuoka</b></i> of
Japan: <a
href="http://www.onestrawrevolution.net/MasanobuFukuoka.htm">http://www.onestrawrevolution.net/MasanobuFukuoka.htm</a>)<br>
<br>
Scientists at the <i><b>Centre for Pesticides and Environmental
Research</b></i> in Yugoslavia had studied the growth and
uranium uptake in sunflowers, soybeans and maize crops. The
sunflowers were found to have the fastest growth rate and highest
concentration of uranium, making them an excellent and fast
"soil-cleaning" crop.<br>
There has been a proposition that we place the seeds into "clay
projectiles". These balls could then be fired into the "radioactive
zone" using "air guns". When they land the should embed themselves
into the soils, and from there they would hopefully sprout. We could
probably also inoculate the Seedball projectiles with mycorrhizae to
help facilitate and accelerate the formation of fungal communities.<br>
The seedballs might also be dropped from above**, akin to "carpet
bombing"... a project that the <i><b>Japanese Self Defence Forces</b></i>
could probably undertake. (Shortly after the accident it was
originally the Self-Defense Forces that were mobilized to inject sea
water into the reactors and spent fuel pools. They were so good at
it that "<i>the injected water started piling up within reactor
buildings, creating a mass of water contaminated with huge amounts
of radiation. The water began to leak from the damaged containment
vessels and piping</i>".<br>
<a
href="http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110910p2a00m0na008000c.html">http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110910p2a00m0na008000c.html</a>)<br>
<br>
We know that Sunflowers can grow very well in Biochar amended
soils. Nikoluas Foidl in Brazil was getting 32 cm sunflower heads
using windrowed <i><b>Terra Preta Nova</b></i>, which also included
torrefied wood -- a kind of "<i>hugelkultur</i>". The soils were
also "colonized" by using small applications of <b>salycylic acid</b>
in the biochar in order to stimulate natural soil fungal hyphae
growth.<br>
<br>
Sunflowers might only be the "first crop", however, because while
sunflowers do absorb Uranium, it may not be uranium we need to be
concerned about. (We need to explore all of the "U-daughters", some
of which are probably not water soluble and will therefore be quite
difficult -- if not impossible -- to remove from the soil using
known phytoremediation pathways because they will likely remain
bound up to the humus - or the biochar).<br>
(Personally, I would like to see if water soluble <i><b>carbon
nanotubes</b></i> or other <i>porous nanomaterials</i>
[produced from Biochar feedstocks] might work to help sequester the
more difficult radionuclides. (Single-walled carbon nanotubes have
already been created from pyrolysis chars.)<br>
We may need to look at all of the radioactive elements released --
including their physical and radioisotope properties and the
mechanisms of transportation through ecosystems -- to fully
understand what it is we need to do. A "literature search" for
Chernobyl remediation might be useful [has there really been much of
<i>any</i>? - the more cost-effective path for the Ukraine is likely
to just keep people out of the area].)<br>
<br>
The big problem in Japan is that unless one plans on either <b>permanently
abandoning the area</b> (the Japanese government has already set
up a 20km "exclusion zone" -- for Chernobyl it is 30km), or digging
all of the soil out and replacing it with uncontaminated soil (at
huge expense), as long as the U daughters remain actively decaying
(and therefore radioactive) the thousands of farmers around the
Fukushima power stations will not be able to return.<br>
<br>
The fact that good land is already at a premium in Japan means that
abandoning the land is not really an option (in the long term).
Returning to the area is also not an option if it remains
contaminated by highly radioactive isotopes since the farmers would
not be able to sell any of the food that they grow as long as their
is a chance that it is also contaminated.<br>
<br>
Attempts at <b>large-scale soil decontamination</b> is probably
the only long-term option in Japan.<br>
<br>
<img src="cid:part1.00060705.01010606@sympatico.ca" alt=""><br>
<br>
P.S. Rob Flanagan told me (in May if this year) that he "<i>no
longer works in the field of biochar</i>", and so I suspect if he
is still in Asia that he is not doing any kind of Biochar projects
anymore. [?]<br>
<br>
P.P.S. I would also be interested in connecting with the <b>PhD
forester from Mongolia </b>since "5ivePlanets" is already
considering expanding into Mongolia, where <i><b>very large</b></i>
projects utilizing Biochar to help with reforestation/afforestation
could probably be done. Dr. Stamets would likely be very interested
in that project as well ~ we could probably "carpet bomb" millions
of his "LifeBoxes" over vast areas of unproductive steppe after
having innoculated these vast areas with a Biochar/fungal
substrate... [?]<br>
(This type of terrestrial re-vegetation project would, of course, be
done as a means of <b><i>Climate Change mitigation</i></b> -- it
would be a type of "<i>Natural Geo-engineering</i>" that should
hopefully not stir up the same type of controversy that other
scientists (and crackpots) have proposed to "geoengineer" the
world’s climate -- schemes like "stratospheric aerosol injections"
or "sunshades in space"...)<br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72"> Lloyd Helferty, Engineering Technologist
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905-707-8754; 647-886-8754 (cell)
Skype: lloyd.helferty
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President, Co-founder & CBI Liaison, Biochar-Ontario
Advisory Committee Member, IBI
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<div>Thanks Ron for the summaries and for the excellent questions
you always manage to pose to speakers. </div>
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<div>The Kansai Corporation rice husk gasifier is interesting.
They feed 150 kg/hr husk at 2000 kcal/kg and get 50 kg/hr char.
It is a stirred bed gasifier. Husks gasifying in the bed at
about 600C. Air is added above the bed to burn the gases. Stack
gas is 15% O2 so they use lots of excess air. About 30% of the
heat input is recovered as hot water which is used in the bio
oil process and in winter for heating. </div>
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<div>I was interested in the labeling of the 10kg bags. They
indicate 40% carbon and 50% silica (SiO2). They also list macro
elements in MG/kg. </div>
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<div>They provide separate instructions for use in gardens,
horticultural crops, row cropland tees. </div>
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</div>
<div>Numbers of units and actual use are still not clear. I heard
that Kansai Corp had installed 200 of these and made char from
about 10% of their husk production of 100,000 tpy. I hope the
presentations will clear up the confusion. But it is not clear
when we will see presentations or written summaries. That is why
I took a lot of pictures of slides. </div>
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On Sep 19, 2011, at 10:38 AM, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<p>Lloyd. Biochar and stoves lists:</p>
<p>This to provide a final recap of the fourth and last
day of the Asian Pacific Biochar Conference (APBC2011).
Attendance down to less than 25.</p>
<p> </p>
<p> There were five AM plenary talks (out of six?
scheduled). The first was somewhat related – a PhD
level talk by an Indonesian getting his degree in Japan
– giving a highly mathematical talk (Hamiltonians).
That ended up indicating they could use the technique to
figure out how many trees to cut (for jobs for
poorest). Nothing we can use yet. This might have been
an award winner picked by the second group
sponsoring/sharing the venue. A group called JAHES.
Not much over lap with Biochar, but some.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Next two talks were on the Cool Vege project being run
by the JBA Erich has given leads to similar work by
Steve McGreevy. General agreement that this was welcome
– to see strong commercial activity. This was topic of
a tour in PM that I didn't attend. Maybe someone can
add more.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Next was Stephen Joseph who went through lots of good
Biochar lists of different types (Markets, high value
targets, integrating with RE, constraints,. This talk
not on Australia. Then Joey talked of an IBI Roadmap
and its needs. Started with recommendation to read
recent paper by Melissa Leach.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Debbie Reed was final speaker. Quite different from
anything earlier – by going through her concerns that
recent marketing trends by groups like Walmart for
environmental compliance could adversely impact small
farmers – and this could apply as well to Biochar
products and their use. Only a problem statement – not
solutions. But something for all in Biochar interested
in helping small farmers to start trying to solve.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>After lunch、ｔｗo buses (about 25 each?) went for 50 + km
trips. Others may be able to talk on the Cool Vege trip
based on bamboo. I went with Tom Miles and family and
25? others to a rice husk charring operation. At least
three from Australia including Adriana Downie. Tom took
lots of pictures (after 4 days of most slides also).
This has been in operation by a city owned recycling
operation in Shiga prefecture for about 8 years. Heat
captured and used for processing canola oil for diesel
operation. Char in large bags available at (I think)
700 Yen (little less than $10) for 10 kg. Saw
production at the rate of about 1 bag each 20 minutes.
We could all get up real close – even to touch
(water-jacket cooled) char coming out. Pyrolyzer
manufactured by the Kansai company – with about 2000
similar around Japan (maybe handling 10% of all
Japanese rice husks), with some appreciably larger than
this one. This being mentioned to emphasize long
history of commercial Biochar operations in Japanese –
whereas very recent US GAO report has Biochar listed as
meriting a “2” on a scale of 1 to 9. I put anything at
10% of a market at an 8 at least. </p>
<p> </p>
<p> The recycling center might be the most advanced in
Japan. A major tourist attraction, with lots of small
gimmicks /trinkets/food for sale. The whole process
started (in '80s??) with detergent-caused algae bloom in
nearby largest lake in Japan (we could see in distance
from their observation deck – along with mostly rice
fields on all directions). The group started
manufacturing their own soap as phosphorous-based
detergents soon thereafter disappeared from the market.
When better detergents reappeared (we need some in US
now) they switched to making bio-diesel. Rice husks
needed for part of still on-going biodiesel production.
Hey use both waste oil and virgin canola oil, I believe.</p>
<p> </p>
<p> All of Japan apparently now separates household waste
into 11 different categories. To save on pickup fuel
expenses, this prefecture is organized such that the
waste is brought in by local neighborhoods and here
separated into more than 11 categories. We didn't see
that – only long description of biodiesel history and
then the Biochar part. We got also to walk into field
where biochar vs compost test was going on. - with soy
bean plants.</p>
<p> </p>
<p> I shared bus ride with one of two (?) Chinese at
conference. I learned that there are five separate
Biochar organizations in China. IBI lists 2 I think.
Possibility that Robert Flanagan may today be in a
different “Asian country” Anyone know? </p>
<p> </p>
<p> I predict great things for Biochar out of China – and
my seatmate didn't deny the possibility. They have the
skills, the available biomass and needy farmers (whose
government is trying to help, the need for carbon
negativity, and they have lots of “spare” money. He
said the Chinese farmers he works with are ready – as
long as they can be shown good economics.</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p> I am having difficulties with web access – and so
will add here responses to Lloyd Helferty's questions:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>1) No mention of Canadian biochar companies – but also
none from US. Stephen's job was only to give a country
report for Australia. The obvious question is how many
worldwide and my guess is that we are over fifty by now
– but maybe someone like Kelpie can give a better count
from IBI perspective. This again emphasizing that the
US GAO didn't do a good job when it gives Biochar a “2”
out of 9 on commercial readiness as a geoengineering
technology.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>2) I missed most of the Thai report (after a break) –
and so apologize. Tom Miles have anything? The main
APBC handout did not list the names of the country
presenters. We received a one page handout – which I
now can't find. Maybe others can help. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>3) Same for your question on the speaker from
Taiwan. There was some indication that the third APBC
meeting will be in Taiwan.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>4) See comment on Flanagan above. I think there was
just a communication glitch re China. My seatmate led
me to believe that China is making good progress. He
did not know Robert. F.</p>
<p>5) I had hoped to reconnect with the forester from
Mongolia, but he was not present on last day. He is a
PhD and appeared very concerned – and looking for help.
I believe Karl Frogner is limiting his Mongolian
liaisons to NGOs, but the forester showed some of Karl's
work, so there may be some interaction..</p>
<p><br>
I have googled for forestry in Mpngolia and found that
the country is listed by FAO as 17% forest. This is
among the least densely populated countries – so that
17% might be plenty.. With Ulanbaatar being so heavily
polluted by coal stoves, this could be a place with much
potential for making char. I think he may have been
saying so the previous day. He also described huge
piles of sheep manure. Biochar could be a big help in
reforestation/afforestation. Forestry is an export item
– although dwarfed by the country's coal resources –
which we have to find a way to keep in the ground.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>6) Cool Vege char seems to only/mainly be associated
with bamboo. It is a weed throughout Japan and felt
needs to be harvested to preserve (not diminish)
biodiversity. Problem is that the rural villages are
now mostly populated by elderly and bamboo harvesting is
not easy work. This is not yet a panacea – but lots of
interest in this first attempt worldwide to tie Char
closely to climate topics.through a commercial ad
campaign. At least 4-5 talks on this topic.. Key seems
to be a 20 Yen (28 cent) label that is attached to any
produce packge– with half going back to the farmers for
the extra “climate” effort.</p>
<p> </p>
<p> 7) Thanks to Erich for giving leads to McGreevy's
work. Stephen was a part of the organizing team and
personally helpful to me (with no credit card capability
and little cash), so thanks again to those who helped me
get to Vietnam with a little cash in my pocket.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Ron<br>
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<b>送信済み: </b>2011年9月19日, 月曜日 午前 1:48:28<br>
<b>件名: </b>Re: [biochar] Re: Report on APBC - first two
days<br>
<br>
Thanks again, Ron.<br>
I'll be looking for more detail about some of the points
you brought up, namely:<br>
<br>
1) Of the "<b>10 companies</b> getting some mention"
from Stephen Joseph, were any <i>Canadian</i>?<br>
<br>
2) P.S. Interesting note about "<i><b>a lot of activity
in Thailand</b></i>". The first time I heard about
Biochar activities in Thailand was through
correspondence with <b>Bryan Hugill</b>, who is also a
member of <i><b>Biochar Ontario</b></i>.<br>
<br>
2a) ... Although, the work in Thailand might also be the
result of <b>collaboration with the Japanese</b>.<br>
I noted that Professor <i><b>Kaneyuki Nakane</b></i>
in the Graduate School of Biosphere Sciences, Hiroshima
University (within the Division of Environmental
Dynamics and Management) was "<b><i>making a lot of
ongoing projects in Thailand</i></b>" with "bamboo
charcoal"...<br>
Professor Nakane is the guy who did the fantastic <i><b>Rooftop
Garden</b></i> project(s) with Biochar (in
collaboration with the Banks, which use greenroofs to <b>keep
the buildings that house ATMs cooler</b>, and
therefore <i><b>reduce energy requirements</b></i>).<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/en/top/research_HU/researchnow/no12/"
target="_blank">http://www.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/en/top/research_HU/researchnow/no12/</a><br>
See also the section starting about half way down the
page about "<b>The Hilltribe People of Thailand</b> and
Burma..."<br>
<br>
2b) I believe that the people of Thailand could
probably teach us a thing or two about Biochar by now
also...<br>
I read once that the King of Thailand had ordered rescue
workers to "spray the bodies with (powdered) Biochar"
after Thailand experienced a <i><b>tsunami</b></i> --
"because the Biochar will 'deodorize' the decaying
bodies in minutes" -- and also because the Biochar
"invites Beneficial microorganisms as decomposters"
(once the bodies are buried).<br>
<br>
3) I would love to see that <i><b>report from Taiwan</b></i>.
(As you know, I have 'close ties' to Taiwan... and had
not really heard much of anything from that island
nation about any Biochar research ~ although I read once
that <i>Dynamotive</i> was at one point supposedly
“developing two plants in Taiwan", in cooperation with a
company called <i>Marketech International Corporation</i>.)<br>
<br>
4) I find it very interesting that there are no reports
coming out of China, considering that <b>Rob Flanagan</b>
had helped a Chinese company create one of the very
first "<i><b>NPK-C Biochar Fertilizers</b></i>"...<br>
<br>
5) Very interesting that "a Governmental <b>forester</b>"
reported from Mongolia. (I didn't think that there were
enough trees in Mongolia for the government to actually
hire a "forester"... perhaps his job title should be
"reforester" or "afforester". ;-)<br>
-- just kidding<br>
<br>
6) What is "the <i><b>Cool-Vege </b></i>concept" from
Japan?<br>
<br>
</p>
<pre class="moz-signature"> Lloyd Helferty, Engineering Technologist
Principal, Biochar Consulting (Canada)
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President, Co-founder & CBI Liaison, Biochar-Ontario
Advisory Committee Member, IBI
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<p>Biochar and stoves lists:</p>
<p> This to provide a short recap of the third
day of the Asian Pacific Biochar Conference
(APBC2011).</p>
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<p> The day was again partly (mostly) in
English and partly in Japanese (with
translations and headsets). Very good
translators. Most of the Asian countries gave
a talk. The starter was Stephen Joseph for
Australia. His was unusual in that it
concentrated on corporate activity – at least
10 companies getting some mention. There were
many research papers earlier and few earlier
on the privates sector (exception being
Adriana Downie and PacPyro mentioned
yesterday). I asked Stephen about organized
opposition to Biochar and he said
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