<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Dean (cc list and Paul)<br><br> Thanks for the PCIA link - which I found most interesting. <br><br> I do not know anything about the Stove-Tec TLUD - which came across as being very successful. <br><br> Can you either describe some details of your design - or send us to an existing web description? What might you have done differently than other TLUDS?<br><br> Is there a reason that data for it were not in all the PCIA report graphs?<br><br>Ron<br><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Dean Still" <deankstill@gmail.com><br><b>To: </b>"Paul S. Anderson" <psanders@ilstu.edu><br><b>Cc: </b>"Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:28:32 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Stoves] Hi TLUDers -- and EPA testing questions<br><br><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><a href="http://www.pciaonline.org/files/PCIA_LabTestResults_webinar_final.pdf" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 204); ">http://www.pciaonline.org/files/PCIA_LabTestResults_webinar_final.pdf</a><div>
<br></div><div>Hi Paul,</div><div><br></div><div>Here's what PCIA published on the first round of testing. I see that a lot of your questions are answered there.</div><div><br></div><div>My idea was that if TLUDers find it useful they can for free use our emission equipment.</div>
<div><br></div><div>All Best,</div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>Dean</div></font></span><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Paul S. Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Dear Dean and all,<br>
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I know of at least 5 TLUDs, each from a separate PCIA Partner, that have been proposed for testing by Jim Jetter for this third round.<br>
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The Aprovecho offer of a free tune up under the emissions hood is nice. Is that offer matched by Zamorano in Honduras or CREEC in Uganda or any other place with PEMS equipment?<br>
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Question: Does a person need to go to Oregon, or could the stove be sent with instructions? Cottage Grove is only convenient and inexpensive for those who live within a hundred miles!!<br>
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And does Aprovecho have the SAME fuels as what Jim will be using? By the way, what are the acceptable fuels now at the EPA testing?<br>
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Another question is how is the WBT used by the EPA different from which version of the other WBT's? I would like a short summary, not just a reference to multi-page documents where the methods are written but the differences are not pointed out.<br>
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BTW, what TLUDs have been tested previously???<br>
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??? With fans: Oorja (yes) and Reed Campstove (??) and BioLyte (??) and Belonio (??) others?<br>
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??? And natural draft: Peko Pe (?) and experimental unit from StoveTec (yes) and what else?<br>
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Paul<br>
-- <br>
Paul S. Anderson, PhD<br>
Known to some as: Dr. TLUD Doc Professor<br>
Phone (USA): <a href="tel:309-452-7072" target="_blank">309-452-7072</a> SKYPE: paultlud Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><br>
<a href="http://www.gtz.de/de/dokumente/giz2011-en-micro-gasification.pdf" target="_blank">www.gtz.de/de/dokumente/<u></u>giz2011-en-micro-gasification.<u></u>pdf</a> (Best ref.)<br>
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Quoting Dean Still <<a href="mailto:deankstill@gmail.com" target="_blank">deankstill@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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Hi Stovers!<br>
<br>
Sorry to have been out of touch. My email was messed up in a subtle way.<br>
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Jim Jetter (EPA/PCIA) is doing a second round of stove testing. He is<br>
finding out fantastic things about emissions, testing, etc. We are very<br>
lucky to have such a great guy and activity going on.<br>
<br>
Natural draft TLUDs were shown in the first round to successfully compete<br>
with fan stoves for low fuel use and emissions. Congratulations to Tom Reed,<br>
Paal Wendelbo, Paul Anderson, Ron Larson, Christa Roth, etc who invented and<br>
developed the TLUD!<br>
<br>
To those who are going to submit a TLUD to Jim, please feel free, if you'd<br>
like, to come to our lab for a free tune up using the emissions hood.<br>
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Strong hot coffee, Fall in Oregon, super low emissions. What could be<br>
better?<br>
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All Best,<br>
<br>
Dean<br>
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