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<A title=rongretlarson@comcast.net
href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net">rongretlarson@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">Discussion of biomass cooking
stoves</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=biochar-policy@yahoogroups.com
href="mailto:biochar-policy@yahoogroups.com">biochar-policy</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:01
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [biochar-policy] Re: [Stoves]
Char vs. fertilizer</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Kevin (cc 2
lists):<BR><BR> 1. Your response to my one sentence
response to Anil's two questions below has nothing to do with stoves. If
you want to continue discussions on whether excess atmospheric carbon
can/will/should be a reason for accelerated growth of Biochar, I urge you to
join our sister list: "Biochar-policy" (being cc'd). </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><STRONG># I
am not at all interested in further discussions on the effectiveness of
biochar as a means for sequestering carbon, in that it is a "slam/dunk,
"case-closed" matter. It is indeed a very effective way to sequester carbon.
Why discuss it further and beat a dead horse? However, I am indeed very
interested in discussing, from the viewpoint of the Farmer or Grower, whether
it is best for him to convert his agricultural waste to char, or to use it
uncharred (ie, "as is") as part of an organic fertilizer
system. </STRONG></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><BR> 2. The important part
of Anil's two questions (which contained the words that I answered
(see below) in a personal "belief" (as opposed to your denial) sense were the
two now <U>underlined (my choices for emphasis) and CAPITALIZED</U>
conjunctions:<BR></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
color=#333399><FONT size=2><FONT face=tahoma,sans-serif><B><SPAN
style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline">By Ani</SPAN>l: <SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">"What will be a better strategy for agricultural
residues: to produce </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; TEXT-DECORATION: underline">char</SPAN><EM>
</EM><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; TEXT-DECORATION: underline">OR</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"> organic
fertilizer?</SPAN></B></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"></SPAN>
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style="FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
color=#333399><FONT size=2><FONT
face=tahoma,sans-serif><B><BR></B></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"></SPAN>
<DIV
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
color=#333399><FONT size=2><FONT face=tahoma,sans-serif><B>Is there any
quantitative studies done for both value production <SPAN
style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline">AND</SPAN> <SPAN
style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline">reducing</SPAN> environmental
considerations</B></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif"
color=#333399><BR> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif" color=#333399 size=3># "2 + 2
= 5"... Your answer is right, but you answered the wrong questions!! :-) What
about dealing with the other important words in the issues he raised, like
strategy, organic fertilizer, qualitative studies, and value
production?</DIV>
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size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"> The answers that Anil seeks are on the four Biochar
lists and the IBI site (and dozens of other sites) almost every day. I
gave the shortest appropriate answer I could for the stoves list.</SPAN></DIV>
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style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><STRONG># I do not know of any qualitative
studies on any of the 5 lists you refer to that deal with the best ways
to put agricultural wastes to their highest use, that is, if it is
to the best interest of the Farmer/Grower to char his waste, or to use it
uncharred. Can you point to one?</STRONG></SPAN></DIV><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>3.
B</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">y far the biggest "<SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">environmental consideration</SPAN>" we have in the
world today is anthropogenic global warming (AGW). If Anil meant
anything else, I would be greatly surprised. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><STRONG># "Environmental considerations" was one
part of one question. His fundamental thrust, as I saw it, was to see if there
was any quantitative studies pointing to the best way for using agricultural
waste. </STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"> When I have seen you (mostly a biochar
detractor) defending your Biochar PR advice on any of the biochar lists, then
I will take your charge of my irresponsibility seriously.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><STRONG># If you would kindly review all my postings
on "Biochar", I think you will find that I am a strong and enthusiastic
supporter of the responsible use of biochar, and also, that I am strongly
against the irresponsible use of biochar. If, in all my postings on Biochar
you can find even one that is against the responsible use of Biochar, then I
will tender my sincere apology. However, I will continue to oppose the
wrongful promotion of biochar as a "silver bullet, a "cure-all", or an
"agricultural panacea."</STRONG></SPAN></DIV><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">
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4. </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"> I also look forward to
your claiming on any biochar list that IBI is "irresponsible" when saying,
exactly as did I, that Biochar can effectively remove excess CO2 - as one of
two equal parts of IBI's Biochar definition..</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><STRONG># Biochar <I>is</I> an effective method
of sequestering carbon and advocating its use in agriculture without knowing
the circumstances where biochar additions will actually be of benefit,
preferably maximum benefit, to the Farmer and Grower <I>is</I> irresponsible.
Responsible agricultural extension work does not consist of piggy-backing
favourite climate issues on food production advice where the consequence for
the latter are unknown. Your argument is "2+2=5".</STRONG></SPAN></DIV><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
size=2></FONT><BR> 5. You referred to my "belief" several times -
presumably to contrast with "denier". I also "believe" in
the law of gravity. I believe in evolution. I can't think of
another word to use in questions of science. I'm ready to discuss the
words "belief" and "denier" any time you wish when talking about the sciences
related to AGW and/or Biochar.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><STRONG># I
used your "belief" word in the context of "a view presented with no supporting
</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><STRONG>evidence
or explanation."<BR><BR></STRONG> 6. I am not going to respond to
any of your admonishments below except to say I find no merit in any of
them. I'd be glad to explain that "any" statement on the
"biochar-policy" list. "Stoves" is not an appropriate venue for that
dialogue.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><STRONG>#
Anil's question is of profound and utmost relevance and importance to the
Stove List!! If it turns out that the quantitative studies, about which he
inquired, showed that the best strategy for using agricultural waste was for
the Farmer/Grower to use it in the uncharred state, then a major justification
for the production of biochar would be unfounded. In such a case, a
significant fraction of the justification for stoves developed to produce
biochar would be questionable. Please note that "agricultural waste" can
have four fundamental uses:</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><STRONG>1:
For direct application to the soil, or as part of an "organic
fertilizer"</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><STRONG>2:
For direct use as fuel, with or without pelletizing, briquetting or other such
processing.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><STRONG>3:
For conversion to charcoal, intended for use as fuel</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><STRONG>4:
For conversion to charcoal, for use as biochar.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <BR>
7. To stovers: </SPAN></FONT><FONT
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">I
hope/think most of you will recognize that we will see a lot more clean and
income-generating stoves (charcoal-making stoves) when the USA catches up with
the rest of the world. By "catchup", I mean gaining a realistic view of
the problems associated with AGW ( the subject matter of the three messages
following). Charcoal-making stoves can play a huge and early role in
solving this AGW problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"><STRONG>#
If the charcoal is not advantageously used as a benefit to agriculture, is it
still "biochar?"</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">
Carbon negativity is very different from carbon neutrality. I believe
Anil asked a good question and I would not change my answer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><STRONG># But
your reply does not deal with the important fuel related issues he
raises! Perhaps I can restate them as follows: Is it better for the Farmer or
Grower to use the agricultural waste biomass (whole) as a fuel or to use it as
part of an organic fertilizer, either directly or after charring it, and, has
any generally accepted comparative benefit been studied
quantitatively?</STRONG></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><STRONG>Kevin</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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color=#333399></FONT> </DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif"
color=#333399>Ron<BR></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><B>From:
</B>"Kevin" <kchisholm@ca.inter.net><BR><B>To: </B>"Discussion of
biomass cooking stoves" <stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><BR><B>Sent:
</B>Wednesday, November 2, 2011 11:42:09 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Stoves]
Char vs. fertilizer<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Dear Ron</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Anil raises a very important question that should not be dismissed
with a mere belief. I suggest that you are doing Biochar a great
disservice by persisting on "beating the Climate Change Drum", while
disregarding the circumstances where biochar additions to the soil will
actually benefit the Farmer and Grower. Biochar usage will escalate
dramatically in circumstances where biochar can be clearly and palpably
demonstrated as being cost effective to the Farmer and Grower. In my opinion,
Biochar usage will virtually collapse, if its use depends on the Carbon Credit
Payment incentives actually received by the Farmer or Grower. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial>The general state of the World Economies, and the complexity
of system administration is such that it is extremely unlikely that
Carbon Credit Payments will actually reach the Farmer or Grower to a degree
that such payments will encourage the use of
biochar. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Furthermore, I feel it is irresponsible to promote increased usage
of Biochar in Agriculture, without knowing the circumstances where biochar
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">additions will actually be of benefit to
the Farmer and Grower. Some of the Farmers that people like Anil, Dr. Reddy,
Dr. Karve, and Peter Ongele wish to help are literally one crop away
from starvation; a "disappointing yield" or a crop failure can literally have
lethal consequences. Sadly, all too many "Biochar Promoters" infer that
"Biochar = Terra Preta". Evidence I have from personal tests, confirmed by
others, shows that "Biochar Only", in a disadvantaged soil will DECREASE
plant growth. However, others have indeed shown that under certain
circumstances, biochar appears to be beneficial to the Farmer or
Grower, PROVIDING that other soil amendments needed by the soil are added at
the same time. Such "other soil amendments" or additives could
include:</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">* Organic
matter</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">*
Manure</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">*
Fertilizer</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">*
Compost</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">* Urine</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">*
Microbes</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">* Sugar</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">* Silt and
Clay</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">* Etc</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Biochar alone is NOT a panacea for the Farmer or
Grower. While it can be PART of a solution in some cases, it
can only result in an improvement if it brings something to the soil, that the
soil lacks. For example, there is no point in adding charcoal to a soil
that is deficient in organic matter, in that charcoal is NOT organic matter...
it is "mineralized carbon" that originated from biomass, and it cannot
feed the soil life-forms necessary for plant growth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial>In my opinion, Anil's question is extremely relevant, and it
deserves to be answered in a responsible manner... with evidence from
competently structured and implemented tests, rather than being dismissed with
an unsupported belief. Using a soil that is otherwise "good", with the single
exception that it is deficient in organic matter, the tests should be
structured to determine if the Farmer or Grower gets superior growth results
under the following test conditions:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial>A: A given amount of organic matter is added to the soil per square
meter.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial>or</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial>B: The SAME amount of organic matter per square meter is
charred to produce biochar, and the resulting biochar is added to the test
plot.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Note that this simple test will only prove the difference between
organic matter and biochar... it does not answer the question posed by Anil.
Given that an "Organic Fertilizer" is "Organic matter plus a "package of
additives"", the above simple test could be expanded in a manner where
identical "additive packages" were added to the test plots in the "A Plots"
(organic matter) and "B Plots" (biochar from the same amount of organic
matter). </FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Kevin</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2
face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A
title=rongretlarson@comcast.net href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net"
target=_blank>Ron Larson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target=_blank>Discussion of
biomass cooking stoves</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target=_blank>Discussion of
biomass cooking stoves</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 02, 2011 7:21
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Stoves] Char vs.
fertilizer</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Anil (cc list)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV> I believe Biochar will do the better job of removing excess
atmospheric CO2 and of improving soil productivity over the long term.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Ron<BR><BR>Sent from my iPad</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Nov 2, 2011, at 2:38 AM, nari phaltan <<A
href="mailto:nariphaltan@gmail.com"
target=_blank>nariphaltan@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#333399><FONT size=2><FONT face=tahoma,sans-serif><B>Dear
Stovers,</B></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=#333399><FONT size=2><FONT
face=tahoma,sans-serif><B><BR></B></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#333399><FONT size=2><FONT face=tahoma,sans-serif><B>What
will be a better strategy for agricultural residues: to produce char or
organic fertilizer?</B></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#333399><FONT size=2><FONT
face=tahoma,sans-serif><B><BR></B></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#333399><FONT size=2><FONT face=tahoma,sans-serif><B>Is
there any quantitative studies done for both value production and reducing
environmental considerations?</B></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#333399><FONT size=2><FONT
face=tahoma,sans-serif><B><BR></B></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#333399><FONT size=2><FONT face=tahoma,sans-serif><B>Both
char and organic fertilizer will go towards enriching the
soil.</B></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#333399><FONT size=2><FONT
face=tahoma,sans-serif><B><BR></B></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#333399><FONT size=2><FONT
face=tahoma,sans-serif><B>Cheers.</B></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#333399><FONT size=2><FONT
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<DIV><FONT color=#333399><FONT size=2><FONT
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