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</SPAN>Charity and subsidising has not solved any long term poverty problems in
the world rather opposite. Mass production and marked economy has not ether
solved any problem of poverty. Coca Cola with it’s coloured water and sugar is
mentioned, what long term poverty problem has that
solved?<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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</SPAN>GACC with it’s 100M<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
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w:st="on">FES</st1:place> and clean burning stove program has an unique
possibility to do something for the poor<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>in developing countries but not with charity and subsidizing . Following
this discussion on the list I feel there is a need of rethinking of the whole
task.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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</SPAN>Household energy is felt different by people trying to survive on 2 $ day
and those with 200 $ a day. And I feel the documentation of Cecil Cook about
charcoal consumption in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Lusaka</st1:place></st1:City> could be a good foundation for further
discussion.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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</SPAN>Dr.TLUD Anderson and Dean Still know exactly how simple the technique of
clean combustion is. With one or two empty tin cans, a <st1:metricconverter
w:st="on" ProductID="4”">4”</st1:metricconverter> nail and a <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>hammer it’s possible to make an excellent
clean burning device at no cost to be put under the pot for cooking and which
can utilise a lot of different types of fuel. The only obstacles to this is
there will be no need of charity and no need of subsidizing and no money to make
for the rich world and the Chinese mass producers<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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</SPAN>So why not start in the other end. Start to train schoolchildren on all
levels in clean combustion and how to obtain it. Train different types of
biomass fuel to be used in the tins and how to collect it and hove to make
briquettes etc. All this children will after some few years will be users of
household energy. Some will be tinsmiths; some will be fuel producers and some
selling more advanced stoves for biomass fuel. What are the obstacles to carry
out such a program to almost no cost? <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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face=Calibri>With regards Paal W<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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