<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Kevin and several lists:<br><br> 1. You said below: <em> "# I have read the BFW Report. What are the "Selected Quotes" to which you refer?</em>"<br><br> Answer: They were in the cite I gave about a dozen lines earlier (my second line under "2"):<br><br> <strong>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/biochar-production/message/833:</strong><br style="font-weight: bold;"><br> 2. I think our discussion on Rademakers and BFW would go better after hearing your response to those quotes (of BFW).<br><br> 3. I have more coming on this topic (which I put in a "Box" labeled "BFW" - not "Biochar", and certainly not "stoves").<br><br>Ron<br style="font-style: italic;"><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Kevin C" <kchisholm@ca.inter.net><br><b>To: </b>rongretlarson@comcast.net<br><b>Cc: </b>biochar@yahoogroups.com, "Discussion of biomass" <stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org>, "Erich Knight" <erichjknight@gmail.com>, "biochar-policy" <biochar-policy@yahoogroups.com><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, December 27, 2011 2:01:42 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [biochar] [Stoves] allAfrica.com: Africa: Biochar - Unfulfilled Promises in Cameroon<br><br>Quoting rongretlarson@comcast.net:<br><br>> Kevin and ccs:<br>><br>> 1. This is getting complicated - as the dialog has shifted from the <br>> BFW story on Africa/Rademakers over to the IBI material.prepared by <br>> Kelpie Wilson. My perception is that you are looking for specific <br>> information from both reports that were not intended and aren't <br>> there. So I see no reason to respond to your questions about <br>> Kelpie's IBI work .<br><br># This is not complicated at all:<br>a: BFW presents a report on biochar tests<br>b. "Defenders of the Faith" demonize BFW, rather than showing where <br>their Report is wrong in a factual, scientific, and professional manner.<br>c: I made no mention of Kelpie's work.<br>d: You would appear to be clouding the issue, to avoid dealing with <br>the matter in a factual way. I am amused that you criticize me for <br>asking for information that is not in the report, and which the report <br>did not intend to convey (why the corn with biochar grew so well), yet <br>you do not criticize Erich when he assumes that it was the biochar, <br>and not other conditions, that made the corn grow so well. (more <br>water, fertilizer, organic matter, manure, compost, better soil in <br>general, better test management, etc.)<br>><br>> 2. The BFW story was covered on the biochar lists about a month ago; see:<br>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/biochar-production/message/833<br>> It is unfortunate that this story is started over again on the <br>> stoves list. It doesn't belong - there is zero stoves aspect to the <br>> BFW story..<br><br># You yourself are using the Stoves List as a way to promote biochar <br>production! How can you possibly say that the Article has no relevance <br>to Stoves? If the BFW Article has a valid basis, then it would suggest <br>that the potential for biochar is diminished. Nobody so far has <br>refuted their article in a rational manner. Can you?<br>><br>> 3. I look forward to hearing your reaction to the selected quotes <br>> from BFW's report - which I presume you have not yet read.<br><br># I have read the BFW Report. What are the "Selected Quotes" to which <br>you refer?<br><br>Best wishes for a happy and Prosperous 2012<br><br>Kevin<br>><br>> Ron<br>> :<br>><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> From: "Kevin C" <kchisholm@ca.inter.net><br>> To: biochar@yahoogroups.com<br>> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 8:37:12 AM<br>> Subject: Re: [biochar] [Stoves] allAfrica.com: Africa: Biochar - <br>> Unfulfilled Promises in Cameroon<br>><br>><br> <snip><br></div></body></html>