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<td valign="top" style="font:inherit;">Good suggestion. If we can get Paul, Art and Nathan I'd be happy to moderate<BR>the discussion. <BR><BR>Tom<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <a ymailto="mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" href="javascript:return">stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><BR>[mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" href="javascript:return">stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] On Behalf Of Crispin<BR>Pemberton-Pigott<BR>Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 1:10 PM<BR>To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<BR>Subject: Re: [Stoves] [Ethos] Biochar Stove Discussion at ETHOS<BR><BR>How about World Stove users in Rwanda? I heard at least once they are<BR>bringing in the char. <BR>Crispin<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: "Tom Miles" <<a ymailto="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com"
href="javascript:return">tmiles@trmiles.com</a>><BR>Sender: <a ymailto="mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" href="javascript:return">stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><BR>Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 10:20:57<BR>To: <<a ymailto="mailto:ethos@vrac.iastate.edu" href="javascript:return">ethos@vrac.iastate.edu</a>>; 'Discussion of biomass cooking<BR>stoves'<<a ymailto="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" href="javascript:return">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>; 'Bryden, Kenneth [M<BR>E]'<<a ymailto="mailto:kmbryden@iastate.edu" href="javascript:return">kmbryden@iastate.edu</a>>; <<a ymailto="mailto:angiemcg@iastate.edu" href="javascript:return">angiemcg@iastate.edu</a>><BR>Reply-To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<BR> <<a ymailto="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" href="javascript:return">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><BR>Cc: 'Kathy Nafie'<<a
ymailto="mailto:kathy.nafie162@gmail.com" href="javascript:return">kathy.nafie162@gmail.com</a>>; <<a ymailto="mailto:pwever@chipenergy.com" href="javascript:return">pwever@chipenergy.com</a>>; 'Hugh<BR>McLaughlin'<<a ymailto="mailto:wastemin1@verizon.net" href="javascript:return">wastemin1@verizon.net</a>>; <<a ymailto="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" href="javascript:return">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>><BR>Subject: Re: [Stoves] [Ethos] Biochar Stove Discussion at ETHOS<BR><BR>Paul,<BR><BR>Art Donnelly or someone from Seachar should be on the panel if he is not in<BR>Costa Rica. Who else has worked in the field with biochar from stoves?<BR><BR>Do we have enough information, or field experience, to know whether biochar<BR>from stoves has been adopted and used by cooks? Does the shoe fit? I suspect<BR>that in getting used to a new stove, like a TLUD, it takes the cook awhile<BR>to buy into it. Saving the charcoal is another
step. Making biochar of<BR>different qualities for different purposes would be another step. How does<BR>using a biochar stove differ from using the fines from an earth kiln,<BR>beehive kiln, Adam retort, Pronatura kiln or other charcoal making device<BR>that might be is use nearby? <BR><BR>If we have the cast these topics would be useful. <BR><BR>Tom<BR> <BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <a ymailto="mailto:ethos-bounces@vrac.iastate.edu" href="javascript:return">ethos-bounces@vrac.iastate.edu</a> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:ethos-bounces@vrac.iastate.edu" href="javascript:return">ethos-bounces@vrac.iastate.edu</a>]<BR>On Behalf Of Paul S. Anderson<BR>Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 8:20 AM<BR>To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; Bryden, Kenneth [M E];<BR><a ymailto="mailto:angiemcg@iastate.edu" href="javascript:return">angiemcg@iastate.edu</a><BR>Cc: Hugh McLaughlin; Kathy Nafie; <a ymailto="mailto:pwever@chipenergy.com"
href="javascript:return">pwever@chipenergy.com</a>;<BR><a ymailto="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" href="javascript:return">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>; ETHOS - Listserve<BR>Subject: Re: [Ethos] [Stoves] Biochar Stove Discussion at ETHOS<BR><BR>Dear all,<BR><BR>I totally agree with the Tom and Mark about having a panel on biochar at the<BR>ETHOS 2012 meeting at the end of this month (January).<BR><BR>I submit the following additional information:<BR><BR>1. I offer to be on the panel. I attend biochar conferences and frequently<BR>present about biochar production. I think that I should NOT organize nor<BR>lead the panel.<BR><BR>2. Let's define what biochar issues will be focal, and which will be<BR>secondary. Tom Miles wrote:<BR>> I think the emphasis should be on field experiences with the use of <BR>> char in developing countries more than on stoves that make char.<BR><BR>However, ETHOS is NOT a group of soil and
plant scientists, nor is it<BR>focused on climate change. Summary statements about the secondary topics<BR>could be useful. But our primary focus actually is the ability of<BR>cookstoves to make char (and what types of char?) and in what quantities and<BR>with what fuel feedstocks.<BR><BR>3. I am sbmitting today (via this message to Angie) my abstract for a<BR>presentation at ETHOS. I would like this to be a regular presentation that<BR>is at any time slot before the panel discussion.<BR><BR>*******************<BR><BR>Abstract for ETHOS 2012<BR><BR>Title: Micro-gasification for Combined Heat and Biochar (CHAB) in "Mini"<BR>Industries<BR><BR>Authors: Paul S. Anderson, Charles Anglin, Art Donnelly and Paul W. Wever<BR><BR>Abstract:<BR>Micro-gasification devices at "mini" sizes from 20 to 150 kW (70 K to<BR>500 K BTU/hr) provide far more thermal power than is needed for<BR>institutional cooking and far less than
most applications of the heat for<BR>small industry and space-heating of buildings. Currently functional devices<BR>and applications are explained and discussed with quantitative data. These<BR>include: TLUD heat for Paramont Dairy in Uganda; TLUD drying of cacao beans<BR>in the SeaChar project in Costa Rica; AVUD (continuous automated operation)<BR>heat and biochar production for a municipal bio-digestor and for factory<BR>space-heating by Chip Energy in the USA, and barrel-size biochar production<BR>(without use of the heat) by several initiatives, including the Jolly Roger<BR>Oven, the Re:Char project in Kenya, "in-field" biochar-barrel system by<BR>Anderson, and efforts by UB International in Mongolia and elsewhere.<BR><BR>********************************<BR>Notes:<BR><BR>1. Anderson will be working with Art Donnelly in Costa Rica in the middle<BR>half of this month, so the results presented will be as up to date
as<BR>possible.<BR><BR>2. This presentation is intended to be one of several by different people<BR>at ETHOS about TLUD micro-gasification. Known or suspected presentations<BR>include (These are NOT in order, and we hope that they will NOT be in<BR>concurrent sessions,)<BR><BR>A. Marc Pare, on micro-gasification advances using rice husks as fuel in<BR>TLUDs.<BR><BR>B. Christa Roth, on GIZ advances with charcoal stoves, including the <BR>TChar technology. (if unfamiliar with "TChar", please see <BR>www.drtlud.com )<BR><BR>C. Paul Anderson, the CHAB devices (see abstract at start of this message).<BR><BR>D. Robert Fairchild, (title not known, but he works with TLUD and TChar<BR>devices for project in Haiti, and brings an engineering perspective to the<BR>topic.)<BR><BR>E. Kathy Nafie, President of the Biomass Energy Foundation, presenting<BR>about outreach activities in North
America and overseas by the BEF relating<BR>to micro-gasification.<BR><BR>F. Presenter unknown, but work by Aprovecho on TLUD / micro-gasification<BR>will probably be presented (we hope).<BR><BR>G. Does Jim Jetter or someone else involved with stove testing have a<BR>summary of emissions data from micro-gasifiers? (we hope so.)<BR><BR>H. OTHERS: I do not want to leave anyone out, but I do not know of all of<BR>the efforts with micro-gasification, and / or if they will be attending.<BR>There are now numerous projects and efforts around the world (including<BR>Wendelbo / Formo in Zambia).<BR><BR>And because all of the TLUD stoves and devices can be use to make biochar,<BR>these also relate to the topic of this email. I would like to hear (via a<BR>direct message) from anyone with a TLUD-type topic for presentation, even if<BR>you are not going to attend ETHOS.<BR><BR>NOTE: The deadline for abstracts to ETHOS is
TODAY 1 January 2012. <BR>In past years there have been some extentions of time, but that is up to<BR>Angie and Mark of ETHOS. Contact them immediately if considering sending in<BR>an abstract.<BR><BR>Plus:<BR>The Saturday evening presentation (sometimes called a "Keynote" <BR>presentation) this year will be on<BR><BR>"The Present and Future of Micro-gasification for Cookstoves: <BR>Expectations for Achieving the 2020 Goals of the Global Alliance for Clean<BR>Cookstoves."<BR><BR>I will be making that presentation, and I assure you that it will NOT be<BR>what you have heard before nor even in the numerous presentations listed<BR>above.<BR><BR>I am suggesting that the ETHOS administration allow this to be a "public<BR>lecture" open to everyone, not just to the those who register for the ETHOS<BR>conference. If that is allowed, we can attract a larger audience to our<BR>ETHOS objectives. Perhaps our host University and
other organizations such<BR>as SeaChar and BEF could help publicize the presentation.<BR><BR>**********************<BR><BR>Paul<BR>--<BR>Paul S. Anderson, PhD<BR>Known to some as: Dr. TLUD Doc Professor<BR>Phone (USA): 309-452-7072 SKYPE: paultlud Email: <a ymailto="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" href="javascript:return">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><BR>www.gtz.de/de/dokumente/giz2011-en-micro-gasification.pdf (Best ref.)<BR><BR><BR>Quoting "Bryden, Kenneth [M E]" <<a ymailto="mailto:kmbryden@iastate.edu" href="javascript:return">kmbryden@iastate.edu</a>>:<BR><BR>> Sounds like a great idea. This is an important discussion or community <BR>> needs to have. Any suggestions or volunteers? Ron? Anyone from <BR>> SeaChar?<BR>><BR>><BR>> On Dec 30, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Tom Miles wrote:<BR>><BR>> Who wants to lead a biochar stove discussion at ETHOS? I think the <BR>> emphasis should
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