<div>Dear Max,</div>
<div>biogas is lighter than air. So, even if it leaks, it does not accumulate on the ground like LPG to cause an explosion.</div>
<div>Yours</div>
<div>A.D.Karve<br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Max Turunen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maxturunen@gmail.com">maxturunen@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Jean Pain used old tractor inner tube tires for that... much more gas could probably be contained in higher pressure, and even if heavier, such could be rolled along... problem: such has much more explosive power and potential for accidents.... and leaks do occur and can start to burst to flames :s<br>
<br>But.... inner tires could be used for careful transport to various "depot" locales in neighbourhoods... route and tire (gas for few days for few households ?) kept in safe shaded and distant / blocked / fenced range, away from creatures and kids... far enough... with a hose, from which portable gas bags could be loaded.... ?<br>
<br>Perhaps usable in some conditions...<br><br><br>MaxT<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@gmail.com" target="_blank">crispinpigott@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">Dear Ron<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">Good to hear from you in the new year.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Tahoma','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:10pt" lang="EN-US">></span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Verdana','sans-serif';FONT-SIZE:10pt">I think you misunderstood the article. The bag is only for transport and temporary storage. They take the empty (and some dung) to a biogas producer, get it filled and go home to cook with it. It is supposed to be about a day's cookin' worth.</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">I am with David House </span><code><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt"><a href="http://www.completebiogas.com/" target="_blank">www.completebiogas.com</a> </span></code><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">on this one: it is a portable digester with nothing but gas in it! </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Wingdings;COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">J</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">He writes, “</span>It's actually a gas bag, not a digester. Even so, it's an excellent innovation, and a worthy addition to the armamentarium, wherever it can serve as a means of transport in connection with a large digester near any large population. <br>
<br>And as well, from my point of view, it's also a bit ironic, since the very sturdy bag, selling for ~$US38, could actually <i>be</i> a digester if it had two additional pipes (an inlet and an outlet), and further that since it's about a cubic meter in volume, it would produce about a cubic meter of gas every day, if fed and kept warm.<span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">I think David is working on a bag digester himself. The transport of gas is interesting. If it turned out to be attractive as a cooking fuel (and delivery system) the users would perhaps be convinced to install their own systems. I am not convinced that a minibus would accept the gas ‘package’ without fear or charge.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">It is a lot lighter than a load of wood and the walking distance might be less. I wonder if a tire on a rim might be as good, and could be pumped by hand. Will a tire hold a useful volume of gas if hand pumped?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:#1f497d;FONT-SIZE:11pt">Regards<span><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p><span><font color="#888888">
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