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Very sorry for this guy, but you've got to do "proof of concept" and get 'buy-in' from the villagers (Your customers!) before emabarking on a full scale operation. I'm going to be working on a total project budget of 10,000 - 15,000 USD (and it's money I really cannot afford to lose)<BR> <BR>Plan! Plan! Plan! and then Research! and then check what is actually wanted. Today, I had the idea of checking what cooking height the villagers want. Is squatting when cooking the preferred style or would they prefer to stand up? That's worth a survey, as if we provide something that does not fit with the cooking preference, it will never be accepted.<BR> <BR>George<br> <BR><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:24:33 +0100<br>> From: scda2@t-online.de<br>> To: stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>> Subject: [Stoves] harsh experience with charcoal making in Turkey with beehieve kilns<br>> <br>> Some harsh experience on charcoal making<br>> Erkan was going to try the "adam-retorts", but then preferred<br>> to invest in 6 beehive kilns in Turkey<br>> .....<br>> <br>> Dear Chris,<br>> How are you? and your famıly,ı hope everythıng ıs ok on the way,,<br>> <br>> Dear frıend I quıt, I gave up, ı am fınıshed,<br>> I see that charcoal makıng ıs not for me, I spent 2 years ın villages <br>> near the oak forrests<br>> ı sleping ın tents, fıght with mosquıdos, rats and all the pests, snakes,<br>> and that ever lıvıng ın nature, ı even broke my pelvıs bone,<br>> in an accıdent fell on from the top of my beehıve kılns 4.5 m hıgh,<br>> thanks God ım stıll alıve,<br>> and ı lost about 40 000 usa dollars and ım fınıshed my frıend,<br>> now ım back ın ıstanbul with my famıly,<br>> <br>> I am stıll ın charcoal bussınes, hopfully next week ıll be at Egypt for <br>> to make new contacts for Charcoal,<br>> ı have to shıp 40 ft contaıner full of ıt to a custumer ın Turkey,<br>> so my frıend thıs ıs the end of my charcoal makıng dream,<br>> gettıng up to % 60 of oak wood wwhıch ıs impossıble<br>> wishing you all the best<br>> <br>> Erkan<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Stoves mailing list<br>> <br>> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br>> stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>> <br>> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org<br>> <br>> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br>> http://www.bioenergylists.org/<br>> <br></div> </div></body>
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