Just a thought<br />A while back the was an involved discussion of dung washing.<br />What about washing the dung and using the "wash" water on the garden.<br />Then use a press to make dung and other biomass briquettes. <br />After burning those toss the ashes in the garden too. <br />On a rocky island off the coast of Maine my parents spent 40 years building garden soil<br />in raised beds on solid granite ledges. The two main components were sheep manure and fireplace ashes.<br /><br />2 for one?<br /><br />Michael N Trevor<br />Majuro Marshall Islands<br /><br />
> Hi Ann<br />
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> Please excuse me for posting a somewhat naive question.<br />
><br />
> Why does it have to be a dung for fuel. Would not the stoves compete with<br />
> soil fertility if you use dung for cooking instead of having them as<br />
> compost?<br />
><br />
> Would you not rather have the raw biomass fuels like grass and wood sticks<br />
> as fuel?<br />
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> Just being curious......<br />
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> Jed Guinto<br />
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> Philippines<br />
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> 2012/5/21 Boston Nyer <boston@burndesignlab.org><br />
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>> Hi Ann,<br />
>><br />
>> Here is a link to a GTZ stove design that has been used for burning dung<br />
>> in the highlands of Peru:<br />
>> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.hedon.info/docs/CEC_inkawasi-stove_peru_factsheet-2008.pdf">http://www.hedon.info/docs/CEC_inkawasi-stove_peru_factsheet-2008.pdf</a><br />
>><br />
>> Please note that I have no direct experience with these stoves, just aware<br />
>> that they exist.<br />
>><br />
>> Best of luck!<br />
>> Boston<br />
>><br />
>><br />
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>> On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 3:42 PM, CEDESOL Foundation <<br />
>> lists.cedesol@gmail.com> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>> Hi Ann,<br />
>>> One of our volunteers replied to your inquiry about CEDESOL stoves.<br />
>>> Did you receive his information? I have been in rural areas where we<br />
>>> have been installing 720 double burner rockets with chimneys. Do<br />
>>> respond if you need more info. My cel 59177900868 abrazos and saludos<br />
>>> to Nancy and Richard.<br />
>>><br />
>>> On 5/20/12, Richard Stanley <rstanley@legacyfound.org> wrote:<br />
>>> > Ann,<br />
>>> ><br />
>>> > Thanks for your inquiry and thanks Nancy for your recommendation. We<br />
>>> are not<br />
>>> > directly involved with improved stoves; However there a contact in Peru<br />
>>> that<br />
>>> > you might want to explore.<br />
>>> ><br />
>>> > We installed a briquette production project in the outlying areas of<br />
>>> Cusco<br />
>>> > under the Adventist Development Relief Organisation in 2003 ( see the<br />
>>> latter<br />
>>> > half of the video on our website) but they let it all die just as it was<br />
>>> > getting off the ground, as their priorities apparently shifted to<br />
>>> follow the<br />
>>> > changes in their donor's ( then USAID) interests. I returned to<br />
>>> discover all<br />
>>> > this while at the PCIA stove conference in Peru, in Feb, 2011. While<br />
>>> there,<br />
>>> > I also happened to meet a one Javier Saldivar <javiercusco@gmail.com><br />
>>> who<br />
>>> > is very active with stove projects in the southern highlands. I am not<br />
>>> sure<br />
>>> > what kind of material he uses for the chimney though.<br />
>>> ><br />
>>> > Kind regards,<br />
>>> ><br />
>>> > Richard Stanley<br />
>>> > www.legacyfound.org<br />
>>> > Ashland Oregon ( our Mayor is a one John Stromberg: Any relation ? )<br />
>>> > ==================================================<br />
>>> ><br />
>>> ><br />
>>> > On May 19, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Ann Stromberg wrote:<br />
>>> ><br />
>>> > I am a member of the Board of Directors of a small foundation that<br />
>>> works in<br />
>>> > the highlands of southern Peru. One of our projects is improved<br />
>>> stoves, and<br />
>>> > we are seeking to improve our model. I have corresponded with Nancy<br />
>>> > Sanford Hughes and she suggested that I contact you: the Stove Team<br />
>>> > International's Ecocina burns wood, and our communities are above the<br />
>>> tree<br />
>>> > line and wood/charcoal are not realistic fuel options. Families in our<br />
>>> > communities depend on cow dung for fuel. The families like to cook<br />
>>> indoors<br />
>>> > for the most part (traditionally in small unventilated kitchens separate<br />
>>> > from other living areas). To date we have been working with an adobe<br />
>>> model<br />
>>> > (families make their own adobes) with a stovepipe. A problem that we<br />
>>> have<br />
>>> > encountered in corrosion of the stovepipes, sometimes within a year of<br />
>>> > installation.<br />
>>> ><br />
>>> > Might you have any recommendations/experience regarding stovepipes that<br />
>>> > might be retrofitted for our stove?<br />
>>> ><br />
>>> > In the longer term, we would also consider other models. I am<br />
>>> wondering if<br />
>>> > you would be able to direct us to a tested model of a household-level<br />
>>> > "improved stove" that burns dung and has been shown to have a<br />
>>> significant<br />
>>> > positive effect in improvement of the indoor air quality. The stove<br />
>>> must<br />
>>> > function at 13,000-14,000 feet altitude and survive an annual season of<br />
>>> > heavy rain as well as lengthy dry season.<br />
>>> ><br />
>>> > Any advice or leads that you can provide for us will be MUCH<br />
>>> appreciated.<br />
>>> > Thank you so much for taking time to write. I'd be happy to call you<br />
>>> if<br />
>>> > that's easier for you.<br />
>>> ><br />
>>> > Ann Stromberg, Ph.D., M.P.H.<br />
>>> > for The Chijnaya Foundation<br />
>>> > www.chijnayafoundation.org<br />
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