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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I was looking at Dale and Christa’s presentation on testing methods and wondered something.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.vrac.iastate.edu/ethos/files/ethos2012/SunPM/Roth_GIZ%20charcoal%20work.pdf">http://www.vrac.iastate.edu/ethos/files/ethos2012/SunPM/Roth_GIZ%20charcoal%20work.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Christa, there I no mention on your map or the text of the SeTAR Centre which was established with GIZ And BEECAP funding to stabilise the work done by ProBEC, of which you were a part, over 13 years leading to its termination in 2010. The map of activities is also does not indicate the most advanced lab created in Africa for stove testing. I was wondering why the omission?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The test method towards the end of the presentation is a ‘lite’ version of the SeTAR Centre protocol, that being a series of advancements on the ProBEC protocols developed to overcome the problems traceable to the rather defective WBT 3.1 that had cause so many problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It seems to me a bit obvious that GIZ-funded lab facilities should be working with each other to advance the science of stove testing particularly where advances have been consistent, solid, and scientifically evaluated for precision and accuracy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There are several promising stove designs that are the direct result of the work or ProBEC including the POCA charcoal stove and its variants/descendants, plus the Lion stove as implemented in Lesotho, Swaziland and by Xavier in Benin. Very few researchers are working with coal-fired space heating stoves even though there are many millions of them in use. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As the SeTAR Centre is currently testing stoves from around Africa it seems wise have all the GTZ/GIZ initiatives, new or old, cooperating in a single group. What do you think?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Crispin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0mm 0mm 0mm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org [mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bryden, Kenneth [M E]<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; ETHOS - Listserve<br><b>Subject:</b> [Stoves] ETHOS proceedings online<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>All, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The presentations and papers from the 2012 ETHOS meeting are now available at<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><a href="http://www.vrac.iastate.edu/ethos/proceedings2012.html">http://www.vrac.iastate.edu/ethos/proceedings2012.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Please take a look at the many great presentations. Any corrections, updates, or suggestions should be provided to Keysha Hennings at <a href="mailto:keysha.hennings@gmail.com">keysha.hennings@gmail.com</a>.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Enjoy!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Mark<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>