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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Dear Ron L.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>From: "Ron Larson" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net"><FONT
face=Arial>rongretlarson@comcast.net</FONT></A><FONT
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org"><FONT
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Cc: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org"><FONT
face=Arial>stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</FONT></A><FONT
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 11:58 AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Subject: Re: [Stoves] interesting link</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>> Ronald and list:<BR>> <BR>> I
have glanced through this cite - and wonder what relationship it has to
stoves?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial># The IPCC has about 600 Climate Scientists,
and the Consensus Science from them is that "Yes, Folks, Global
Warming is Anthropogenic." Ron H's Link shows that there are 1,000
independant Climate Scientists whose consensus is that Global Warming is not
anthropogenic. Basically, they say "The IPCC Emperor has no clothes."
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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial># I would suggest that as a "Believer", you have
sort of painted yourself into a corner, and that it appears the tide has turned,
in favour of the skeptics and dis-believers, who have based their position on
real science, and not "Opinion Science."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial># It appalls me that you cannot see the potential
impact that Ron H's URL has on the direction you and others want to drive "Stove
Development" and "Biochar Development". You, and others, want to drive Stove and
Biochar in a direction that depends on carbon credits. You have been told that
such motivation is very risky, in that carbon credits were unlikely to come
about. By promoting the development and justification of Stoves and Biochar for
carbon credits, such justification is absent if carbon credits are not present.
Stove and Biochar should rise or fall based on their fundamental merits, not on
the chimerical hope that carbon Credits will justify them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial># Carbon Credits are dead. Most people with an open
mind can see this. The outcome of the Durban Conference was basically "We, the
Governments of the World support CO2 reduction. We will take further action
sometime after 2020, but we will not committ to the action we will take, or when
we will take it." </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial># Except possibly for Germany and China, most of
the Governments of the World are in bad, to very bad, to "basket
case" financial shape, with large to huge debt loads. They cannot afford to
committ huge quantities of money to resolving an uncertain problem with an
uncertain outcome, at an uncertain time in the future, when
the World Economy is tottering on collapse. The Governments of the World
will need whatever money they can scrape up NOW, to deal with immediate,
real, and certain problems. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial># Can you now see the relevance of Ron H's URL to
Stove and Biochar development? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=4>Kevin Chisholm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>> <BR>> Ron<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On Jun 23, 2012,
at 3:07 AM, Ronald Hongsermeier <</FONT><A
href="mailto:rwhongser@web.de"><FONT face=Arial>rwhongser@web.de</FONT></A><FONT
face=Arial>> wrote:<BR>> <BR>>> </FONT><A
href="http://www.climatedepot.com/a/9035/SPECIAL-REPORT-More-Than-1000-International-Scientists-Dissent-Over-ManMade-Global-Warming-Claims--Challenge-UN-IPCC--Gore#.T-VJ6M92ky8.facebook"><FONT
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