<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Crispin and Paul:<br> <br> I'd like to see that data also. Also whether a coal stove user can make (or save) money by selling coke .as a service to others.<br><br>Ron<br><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Paul Anderson" <psanders@ilstu.edu><br><b>To: </b>"Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, June 25, 2012 7:15:29 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>[Stoves] TLUD coal stove in UB Re: Engineering view<br><br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Crispin,<br>
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Please send info or a link to info about the TLUD coal stove in
UB. Technical info as well as general description would be
appreciated. And what is its cost or market price?<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre class="moz-signature">Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka "Dr TLUD"
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
On 6/25/2012 12:11 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear
David</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
current cost of a cheap charcoal stove in Lusaka is $1.50
and the most money people can save for a new stove is
about $2.50. After accumulating that much, it starts
leaking out of the pocket.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It
is good to see some realistic numbers on what people
really can afford to pay for a product. Stove programmes
with subsidies are expensive to monitor if abuse is to be
avoided and in some countries, nearly impossible to
guarantee. For this reason the funding of development and
creating capacity is seen as a better mechanism than
subsidising products. Paying for marketing to launch is a
good way to ‘invest’ in a new stove that is cheap. There
was a publicity campaign mounted in Ulaanbaatar to teach
people how to light, run and particularly, to refuel the
stove being rolled out by MCA/MCC which is a TLUD coal
stove. It costs $1m just for that publicity and it was
very effective at changing traditional behaviour. It was
money well spent as the stove, correctly operated, can
reduce PM emissions more than 98%.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Crispin</span></p>
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