<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hi Paul, </div><div>Quick response from I phone: </div><div>Stoves = three stones cooking huge tubs flat bottom outward flared sides of ~ 20 gallon capacity. That or unimproved cinder block sided ~ 1/8 th " ms plate topped planchas. No stove pipe. Pretty east stuff to improve and a good test for good quality bqs frankly...</div><div>Gotta board.. More anon,</div><div>Richard<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jun 27, 2012, at 9:21, Paul Anderson <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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Great progress. Congratulations.<br>
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Are the briquette being made (or could be made with you system
there) in "small chunky" sizes that would be appropriate for a
TLUD stove?<br>
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And at nearly 3000 meters elevation, what are their stove types?
Specifically, do the stoves have chimneys? One or two pot, or a
plancha? And how many hours are they kept ignited each day?
Provide photos if possible, please.<br>
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Paul<br>
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On 6/27/2012 7:56 AM, Richard Stanley wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:9BA5B399-6C69-4BC6-A7ED-FFE31F0E0998@legacyfound.org" type="cite">Hi Paal,
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<div>Hope this finds you well and kicking ! Had to add to your
recent note about use of biomass. </div>
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<div>Am down here in Guatemala, after an intensive week up in
the North east and west of the country, visiting recently
trained producers, I can tell you that I have only got a small
glimpse of the incredible richness of diversity here and the
skills of the people in adapting them. It's really something
to see !. </div>
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<div>The initial training included 24 camposinoes in April:
There are now about 400 involved over four widely distributed
locations.</div>
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<div>The trained groups are, predictably not yet quite ready for
the market--we have also had to devise smore clever ways to
work through the rains together, but it can be done--and is. </div>
<div>We will be back in November for training of selected teams
of trainers out of these new producers, once they are a bit
more seasoned, then, watch it spread. </div>
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<div>The short story is, that in adapting biomass–beyond wood
alone, a whole new door of opportunity arises. The best part
is that the real experts are those who use those resources
every day: We're just mechanics of the process. </div>
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<div>That aroma of eucalyptus and mango leave blends being super
dried on the plancha, emitting aromas without smoke, while
driving off small flies mossies for cooking a hearty Chapin
breakfast at 9,500 ft elevation in San Pablo, de San Marcos :
It doesn't get much better than that ! </div>
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<div>Pressing on, </div>
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<div>Richard Stanley</div>
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<div>On Jun 27, 2012, at 3:39 AM, Paal Wendelbo wrote:</div>
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<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language:
en-us" lang="EN-US"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Stovers</font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language:
en-us" lang="EN-US"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Are
we talking about, stoves and fuel for cooking to
be used 2-3 times per day by more than 1/3 of
the population the world? </font><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </font></span></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language:
en-us" lang="EN-US"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">With
higher demands for emission and efficiency it
will go in a direction to more expensive and
sophisticated subsidized stoves; produced by
high technology factories somewhere, and which
need a special type of fuel to fit to the stove.
Will that be biomass or fossil fuel is one
question, another will be, will the carbon
credit also be available for fuel? The stove is
investment; the fuel is every day running costs.</font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language:
en-us" lang="EN-US"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It
is possible to produce a perfect TLUD-ND at
almost no cost, but it will not last for more
than a month. The cost of the fuel will be the
same as for more sophisticated stoves and need
the same attention as the stove and has in all
contexts to be treated together.</font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language:
en-us" lang="EN-US"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">To
me biomass will be the natural fuel for most
people in the developing world, and today around
15 % of the population in developing countries
have their daily income from biomass as
household energy. Biomass is mostly available
where people stay in terms of human, agriculture
and forestry waste, and will be excellent
household energy for simple TLUDs treated the
right way. Biomass as household energy will save
existing jobs and create new jobs and that is
what’s needed. Take a look on another
interesting link </font></span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.agronova.no/" target="_blank"><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: ;
mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font face="Arial"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt" color="#0000ff">www.agronova.no</font></font></span></a><span class="MsoHyperlink"><span style="LINE-HEIGHT:
12pt; FONT-FAMILY: ; mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font face="Arial"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt" color="#0000ff"><u>
</u></font></font></span></span><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </font></span><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">can be one alternative.</font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language:
en-us" lang="EN-US"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Together
with GACC we have a unique opportunity to do
something to really improve the life of 1/3 the
world population. </font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language:
en-us" lang="EN-US"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Create
more unemployment or create more jobs? That’s
the main question. </font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language:
en-us" lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-spacerun:
yes"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </font></span><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Best regards Paal W</font></span></p>
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