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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Wayne, Todd, and others,<br>
<br>
I and others are very interested in the type of TLUD you are using
to make biochar. There are now many variations, so just saying
"TLUD" does not tell more than the basic pyrolytic process that
you are using.<br>
<br>
Please send info on what you are doing. Better yet, can you bring
your device to any of the hands-on venues across America this
summer about biochar production. These multi-day gatherings are
highly PRACTICAL. I am at all of them, plus Berlin on 10 -15
Sept and Honduras in late Sept. We want to learn from you while
you learn from others who are solving the issues that we all
confront.<br>
<br>
1. California: USBI Sonoma state start 29 July<br>
<br>
2. Massachusetts: CHAB camp at Belchertown start 6 August<br>
see <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.smallfarm.org/">http://www.smallfarm.org/</a><br>
<br>
3. Tennessee: Stove and Biochar camp at The Farm start 1 Sept<br>
<br>
4. Illinois: At my home and at Chip Energy at any time that I am
passing through.<br>
<br>
Info about all is at <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a> (Undergoing an admin
revision, so be patient if it does not come up.)<br>
<br>
I hope to meet you soon,<br>
<br>
Dr TLUD<br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka "Dr TLUD"
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
On 7/20/2012 3:08 PM, Todd wrote:<br>
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<p>My purpose is actually multi-faceted. I want to use
everything at my disposal for heat and to create bio char
for a soil amendment. <br>
<br>
Part of my desire is waste minimization. I want to avoid
high tipping fees at the local landfill. I also detest the
idea of burying anything that has a value elsewhere
through recycling or btu recovery. <br>
<br>
Also, I run my small business off the grid completely on
renewable energy. I'd like to capture the heat from the
TLUD during the winter while also minimizing what
otherwise would be waste biomass.<br>
<br>
But, in doing all this workshop R&D, I don't want to
inadvertently create something hazardous. In this case, I
want to make sure any chemicals are eliminated through the
gasification process.<br>
<br>
I bought a 16hp chipper/shredder for this type research.
It has a side chute for limbs and flail type arms for
branches. It creates a dirty chip, not good for
gasification for engine fuel use. <br>
<br>
How important is moisture content in gasification for
biochar/heat production?<br>
<br>
--- In <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:biochar%40yahoogroups.com">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>,
"Teel, Wayne Stephen - teelws" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:teelws@..."><teelws@...></a> wrote:<br>
><br>
> <br>
> Todd,<br>
> <br>
> I have made bio dhal out of a number of kinds of
waste woody biomass, including plywood,particle board,
miscanthus and switch grasses, juniper branched, and more.
they all work fine. In my limited experience with TLUD
systems the most important things are uniform particle
size for even burns and dry material. You are on the right
track.<br>
> <br>
> Wayne<br>
> <br>
> Wayne S. Teel<br>
> E-mail: teelws@...<br>
> ________________________________________<br>
> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:biochar%40yahoogroups.com">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:biochar%40yahoogroups.com">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>]
on behalf of Todd [toddt58@...]<br>
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 10:37 AM<br>
> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:biochar%40yahoogroups.com">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a><br>
> Subject: [biochar] Biochar from wood products?<br>
> <br>
> I've been involved in gasification as fuel for an
engine for a few years and now want to learn more about
biochar. I am building a TLUD.<br>
> <br>
> I have some OSB and particleboard scrap I need to get
rid of. Can I use this material as feedstock for making
biochar? It stands to reason that any binders or chemicals
used in the manufacturing of these wood products would be
eliminated in the temperatures of the process.<br>
> <br>
> But, I don't want to use this char as a soil
amendment if it is hazardous in any way. By the way, none
of this is "treated" wood such as would be used on a deck
or foundation.<br>
><br>
<br>
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