<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Tom,<br>
Those guys were at the biochar meetings in Montreal last winter.<br>
They had a stove and were selling baggies of char from China. I
glanced in the stove, smiled and said "TLUD?"<br>
TLUD-Rocket he said. <br>
Its fun to see this mutating, going viral and hybridizing,
producing little F1s. <br>
<br>
Alex<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 26/08/2012 10:37 AM, Tom Miles wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote cite="mid:002901cd8398$55715210$0053f630$@trmiles.com"
type="cite">
<span style="display:none"> </span>
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~-->
<div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;">
<div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;">
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~-->
<div id="ygrp-text">
<p>Stephen<br>
<br>
Keeping track of biochar stove activities is a challenge.
It should be a<br>
"clearinghouse" task of the Global Alliance for Clean
Cookstoves. They have<br>
(about $100 million) more resources than any of us who
have been doing this<br>
work voluntarily for the last 18 years. <br>
<br>
IBI may have an idea of the overall picture of biochar
stoves in China since<br>
they hosted a Chinese group at the Biochar 2012
conference. <br>
<br>
Paul Anderson has been the common promoter of TLUD biochar
stoves and has<br>
attended events in China. The PlanetStove group attended a
CHAB (combined<br>
heat and biochar) camp that Paul, Hugh McLaughlin and
others put on. <br>
<br>
Sarah Carter and Simon Shackley did a review of biochar
stoves last year,<br>
"Biochar Stoves: Field Testing and an Innovation Studies
Perspective."<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.biochar.org.uk/abstract.php?id=41">http://www.biochar.org.uk/abstract.php?id=41</a>
This work should be expanded. <br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Tom<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stoves-bounces%40lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stoves-bounces%40lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Stephen Joseph<br>
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:19 PM<br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:biochar%40yahoogroups.com">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>;
Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<br>
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Carbon-negative "PlanetStove: Hybrid
Biochar Cooking<br>
Stoves."<br>
<br>
Hi All<br>
<br>
I am wondering whether they know of the work Robert
Flanagan did with<br>
biochar stoves.<br>
<br>
There are lots of groups now doing improved cookstoves
some of which I<br>
believe are making biochar.<br>
<br>
Would be useful to somehow get an update of what is going
on.<br>
Hopefully at the IBI conference in Beijing<br>
<br>
Stephen<br>
<br>
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Tom Miles <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tmiles%40trmiles.com">tmiles@trmiles.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> All,<br>
><br>
> Thanks to Hugh McLaughlin introducing us to this
group. They have done a<br>
> good job of taking TLUDs to China. Their solicitation
is for a good cause.<br>
> Let's help them reach their goal.<br>
><br>
> Tom<br>
><br>
> PS: To contribute, go to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.indiegogo.com/PlanetStove">http://www.indiegogo.com/PlanetStove</a><br>
><br>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----<br>
> From: dylan maxwell <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dylanmontreal%40gmail.com">dylanmontreal@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 2:32 PM<br>
> Subject: Please help start the ball rolling. Just 25
$ and I will send you<br>
a<br>
> pic of the family you helped<br>
><br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
><br>
> I'm writing to let you know about our new
carbon-negative "PlanetStove:<br>
> Hybrid Biochar Cooking Stoves." After two years, and
much hard work, we<br>
> have a great stove model, solid team both here and in
China, and, we're<br>
> excited to let you know we've we've just launched a
crowd-source funding<br>
> campaign, at Indiegogo.com!<br>
><br>
> Our goal is to distribute 1,000 stoves throughout
East Asia this autumn.<br>
As<br>
> you probably know if you know me, Biochar and
efficient cookingstoves are<br>
a<br>
> big passion of mine-- over two million people die
prematurely each year<br>
> because of indoor air pollution, which comes
primarily from indoor cooking<br>
> stoves. And we can do something about it.<br>
><br>
> Please take a moment to check it out on Indiegogo and
share it with your<br>
> eco-minded friends. All the tools are there. Get
amazing perks, make a<br>
> contribution, or simply follow updates. If enough of
us get behind it, we<br>
> can make 'PlanetStove: Hybrid Biochar Cooking Stoves'
happen.<br>
><br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.indiegogo.com/PlanetStove?a=1056289&i=emal">http://www.indiegogo.com/PlanetStove?a=1056289&i=emal</a><br>
><br>
> Thank you,<br>
><br>
> Dylan<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Stoves mailing list<br>
><br>
> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stoves%40lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
><br>
> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the
web page<br>
><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists</a><br>
.org<br>
><br>
> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information
see our web site:<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.bioenergylists.org/">http://www.bioenergylists.org/</a><br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Stoves mailing list<br>
<br>
to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stoves%40lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
<br>
to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web
page<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists</a><br>
.org<br>
<br>
for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see
our web site:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.bioenergylists.org/">http://www.bioenergylists.org/</a><br>
<br>
</p>
</div>
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~-->
<div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div>
<div id="ygrp-actbar" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px;
white-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;">
<div> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com?subject=RE%3A%20%5BStoves%5D%20Carbon-negative%20%22PlanetStove%3A%20Hybrid%20Biochar%20Cooking%09Stoves%2E%22"
style="margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span
style="font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com?subject=RE%3A%20%5BStoves%5D%20Carbon-negative%20%22PlanetStove%3A%20Hybrid%20Biochar%20Cooking%09Stoves%2E%22">
Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">group</span></a>
| <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biochar/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJyanBxcG0xBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIyNDM4MDUyBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzQxODYxMgRtc2dJZAMxMzYzMgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzEzNDU5OTE4NTc-?act=reply&messageNum=13632">Reply
<span style="font-weight: 700;">via web post</span></a>
| <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biochar/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmajNjdW0yBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIyNDM4MDUyBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzQxODYxMgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNDU5OTE4NTc-"
style="font-weight: 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biochar/message/13632;_ylc=X3oDMTM3OThrb3AxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIyNDM4MDUyBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzQxODYxMgRtc2dJZAMxMzYzMgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNDU5OTE4NTcEdHBjSWQDMTM2MzI-">Messages
in this topic</a> (<span style="font-weight: 700;">1</span>)
</div>
<!------- Start Nav Bar ------>
<!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| -->
<!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| -->
<!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| -->
<div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #e0ecee;
font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px;
padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold;
color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span>
<ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0;
display: inline;">
<li style="border-right: 1px solid #000; font-weight: 700;
display: inline; padding: 0 5px; margin-left: 0;"> <span
class="cat"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biochar/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJnYmpkZnJlBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIyNDM4MDUyBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzQxODYxMgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxMzQ1OTkxODU3?o=6"
style="text-decoration: none;">New Members</a></span>
<span class="ct" style="color: #ff7900;">1</span> </li>
</ul>
<div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biochar;_ylc=X3oDMTJmajVoMWpsBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIyNDM4MDUyBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzQxODYxMgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzNDU5OTE4NTc-"
style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div>
</div>
<div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px;
margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcGg4NWF0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIyNDM4MDUyBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNzQxODYxMgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTM0NTk5MTg1Nw--"
style="float: left;"><img moz-do-not-send="true"
src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif"
alt="Yahoo! Groups" style="border: 0;" height="15"
width="137"></a>
<div style="color: #747575; float: right;">Switch to: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:biochar-traditional@yahoogroups.com?subject=Change%20Delivery%20Format:%20Traditional"
style="text-decoration: none;">Text-Only</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:biochar-digest@yahoogroups.com?subject=Email%20Delivery:%20Digest"
class="margin-rt" style="text-decoration: none;">Daily
Digest</a> • <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:biochar-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe"
style="text-decoration: none;">Unsubscribe</a> • <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/"
style="text-decoration: none;">Terms of Use</a></div>
</div>
<!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> </div>
<!-- ygrp-msg -->
<!-- Sponsor -->
<!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| -->
<div id="ygrp-sponsor" style="width:160px; float:right;
clear:none; margin:0 0 25px 0; background: #fff;">
<!-- Start Recommendations -->
<div id="ygrp-reco"> </div>
<!-- End Recommendations --> </div>
<!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| -->
<div style="clear:both; color: #FFF; font-size:1px;">.</div>
</div>
<img moz-do-not-send="true"
src="http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=22438052/grpspId=1707418612/msgId=13632/stime=1345991857/nc1=5758222/nc2=4025291/nc3=4507179"
height="1" width="1"> <br>
<div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__,_._,___</div>
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~-->
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~-->
<style type="text/css">
<!--
#ygrp-mkp {
border: 1px solid #d8d8d8;
font-family: Arial;
margin: 10px 0;
padding: 0 10px;
}
#ygrp-mkp hr {
border: 1px solid #d8d8d8;
}
#ygrp-mkp #hd {
color: #628c2a;
font-size: 85%;
font-weight: 700;
line-height: 122%;
margin: 10px 0;
}
#ygrp-mkp #ads {
margin-bottom: 10px;
}
#ygrp-mkp .ad {
padding: 0 0;
}
#ygrp-mkp .ad p {
margin: 0;
}
#ygrp-mkp .ad a {
color: #0000ff;
text-decoration: none;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc {
font-family: Arial;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd {
margin: 10px 0px;
font-weight: 700;
font-size: 78%;
line-height: 122%;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad {
margin-bottom: 10px;
padding: 0 0;
}
a {
color: #1e66ae;
}
#actions {
font-family: Verdana;
font-size: 11px;
padding: 10px 0;
}
#activity {
background-color: #e0ecee;
float: left;
font-family: Verdana;
font-size: 10px;
padding: 10px;
}
#activity span {
font-weight: 700;
}
#activity span:first-child {
text-transform: uppercase;
}
#activity span a {
color: #5085b6;
text-decoration: none;
}
#activity span span {
color: #ff7900;
}
#activity span .underline {
text-decoration: underline;
}
.attach {
clear: both;
display: table;
font-family: Arial;
font-size: 12px;
padding: 10px 0;
width: 400px;
}
.attach div a {
text-decoration: none;
}
.attach img {
border: none;
padding-right: 5px;
}
.attach label {
display: block;
margin-bottom: 5px;
}
.attach label a {
text-decoration: none;
}
blockquote {
margin: 0 0 0 4px;
}
.bold {
font-family: Arial;
font-size: 13px;
font-weight: 700;
}
.bold a {
text-decoration: none;
}
dd.last p a {
font-family: Verdana;
font-weight: 700;
}
dd.last p span {
margin-right: 10px;
font-family: Verdana;
font-weight: 700;
}
dd.last p span.yshortcuts {
margin-right: 0;
}
div.attach-table div div a {
text-decoration: none;
}
div.attach-table {
width: 400px;
}
div.file-title a, div.file-title a:active, div.file-title a:hover, div.file-title a:visited {
text-decoration: none;
}
div.photo-title a, div.photo-title a:active, div.photo-title a:hover, div.photo-title a:visited {
text-decoration: none;
}
div#ygrp-mlmsg #ygrp-msg p a span.yshortcuts {
font-family: Verdana;
font-size: 10px;
font-weight: normal;
}
.green {
color: #628c2a;
}
.MsoNormal {
margin: 0 0 0 0;
}
o {
font-size: 0;
}
#photos div {
float: left;
width: 72px;
}
#photos div div {
border: 1px solid #666666;
height: 62px;
overflow: hidden;
width: 62px;
}
#photos div label {
color: #666666;
font-size: 10px;
overflow: hidden;
text-align: center;
white-space: nowrap;
width: 64px;
}
#reco-category {
font-size: 77%;
}
#reco-desc {
font-size: 77%;
}
.replbq {
margin: 4px;
}
#ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {
/* border-right: 0px solid #000;*/
margin-right: 2px;
padding-right: 5px;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg {
font-size: 13px;
font-family: Arial, helvetica,clean, sans-serif;
*font-size: small;
*font: x-small;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg table {
font-size: inherit;
font: 100%;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {
font: 99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {
font:115% monospace;
*font-size:100%;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg * {
line-height: 1.22em;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg #logo {
padding-bottom: 10px;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg a {
color: #1E66AE;
}
#ygrp-msg p a {
font-family: Verdana;
}
#ygrp-msg p#attach-count span {
color: #1E66AE;
font-weight: 700;
}
#ygrp-reco #reco-head {
color: #ff7900;
font-weight: 700;
}
#ygrp-reco {
margin-bottom: 20px;
padding: 0px;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov li a {
font-size: 130%;
text-decoration: none;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov li {
font-size: 77%;
list-style-type: square;
padding: 6px 0;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov ul {
margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 0 8px;
}
#ygrp-text {
font-family: Georgia;
}
#ygrp-text p {
margin: 0 0 1em 0;
}
#ygrp-text tt {
font-size: 120%;
}
#ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {
border-right: none !important;
}
-->
</style>
<!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~-->
<!-- end group email -->
</blockquote>
<br>
</body>
</html>