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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Stovers,<br>
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Rolf sent me two replies about the German pellet machines, but not
sent to the Stove Listserv (too sensitive about commercial
messages). So I am posting the two responses below, that
include prices. <br>
<br>
Anyone with a commercial reply should write direct to Rolf or to
the company. General comments about these and other
pelletizeing machines can be sent to the Stove Listserv for all of
us to discuss.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka "Dr TLUD"
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">As for the technical questions, Paul:<br>
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There are many and bigger pelleting chains on the market. Most
use hammer mills to grind the<br>
biomass down, which is utterly wasteful, here you can separate
the grinding from pelletizing.<br>
But then you need more hoppers,conveyors and space.<br>
<br>
These machines were designed for people who look for an
integrated device which not only saves space<br>
(1 m² for the biggest unit, less for the smaller) but also
energy.<br>
<br>
They use individual freq.drives for every motor, thus you can
adjust the speed of each motor (rasping drum, mixer, feeder
screw, pellet press )individually so as to adjust it to the
different input mats by means of a turn on the poti.<br>
It is this concept which makes the PM range so versatile.<br>
<br>
Of course you are free to mix different feedstock into the
hopper, e.g. add some sawdust to straw (chaff) and it will
vastly improve the pellet quality.<br>
<br>
The inbuilt water pump can handle lime water to dose some lime
to high chlorine mats which makes the pellets less prone to ash
melting...<br>
<br>
Carpenters, woodworkers, smallholders, you name it- everyone who
has ligno-cellulosic waste material of different shapes just
drops them into the hopper and watches the pellets come out
below. It is that easy!<br>
<br>
Corn cobs are just fine,want to mix it with waste
paper/cardboard? O.k. no problem.<br>
<br>
Garden waste? Shrubs? Bad wood chips with too many fines and
escapes? Yes please!<br>
<br>
I was very impressed by the 20 mm pellets made out of sander
dust, hard like a rock !<br>
<br>
What works also great is the fibrous residus of anaerobic
fermenters. In the 25mm shape they look just like dog "pellets"
but they are quite solid.<br>
The max humidity is between 20 and 25 %, depending on the
material.<br>
<br>
More questions welcome<br>
<br>
Rolf<br>
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On 9/30/2012 4:38 PM, Energies Naturals C.B. wrote:<br>
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Hallo Paul,<br>
<br>
the manufacturer is very strict about prices:<br>
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There is only one price for all and one retail % for all dealers.<br>
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The pm 22 costs € 9.000,- ex worx, the PM 44 € 20.000,- e.w. and
the PM 75 € 46.000,-<br>
<br>
Please don´ t get me wrong, I didn´t intend to make sales on the
forum´ s back.<br>
<br>
I came to Ecoworxx because I saw what they build and that it suits
perfectly my needs.<br>
<br>
The partnership whith them came later. It is for Spain only. <br>
<br>
But I believe that many on the list shall find these compact
machines extremely versatile and usefull.<br>
<br>
Rolf<br>
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Am 30.09.2012 15:55, schrieb Paul Anderson:
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<div>Rolf,<br>
<br>
Yes, we would like to know the prices. This Listserv is not
for commercial purposes, but you can certainly inform us of
the prices here because so many people want to know. And not
all want the USA prices. Basic price where manufactured.
And I want to know about getting units in eastern Africa
(specifically Uganda).<br>
<br>
Question: Wouldn't it make more sense to have the
chopping/shreading/grinding to be done separately from the
machine that does the pelletizing? That would allow the
user to make appropriate mixtures for the pellets.<br>
<br>
So I ask: Can you make and sell the pelletizer unit
separately? Prices please.<br>
<br>
I like the ability to have different diameters of
pellets!!! <br>
<br>
Finally, where can we see independent reviewer comments about
your machines? And comparative info with other pelletizers?<br>
<br>
As we (generic we because there are several efforts) advance
with TLUD stoves in eastern Africa, there could be
considerable market for appropriately priced and reliable
pelletizing equipment. Small units are fine. Labor costs
are so low, so it is vastly different from the USA and Europe
situations. Do you have any representation in Africa?<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre>Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka "Dr TLUD"
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
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