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  <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">The Mayon Turbo Stove is the first commercially available stove I saw that used a tap to feed and there are some complaints about the need for attention to keep it going, partly because of the rice hull fuel being so light and low power. The possibility of using another feed method is attractive. <br/><br/>So I am looking for a way to use the burning of the fuel right at the hopper outlet to do the job of releasing fuel now and then or 'often'. It doesn't look good at the moment but it might!  Never assume anything. <br/><br/>Alex I am booking to see you mid Nov as I have to collect a piano from the Carrying Place area. <br/><br/>Regards<br/>Crispin back in Jakarta<hr/><div><b>From: </b> Paul Anderson <psanders@ilstu.edu>
</div><div><b>Date: </b>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:29:01 -0500</div><div><b>To: </b>Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org></div><div><b>Cc: </b>Crispin Pemberton-Pigott<crispinpigott@gmail.com>; Hugh McLaughlin<wastemin1@verizon.net></div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Stoves] Very small stoves and reheating food</div><div><br/></div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Crispin and Alex and all,<br>
      <br>
      Successful "dribble" or "trickle" feeding at very low cost will be
      a great addition to small stove technology.   <br>
      <br>
      Of course gravity is the least expensive.   But "assisted gravity"
      might be relatively low cost.   I am thinking of a small tapper or
      vibrator that can be set to giggle the fuel chamber periodically
      or when some sensor sends a signal.   <br>
      <br>
      Alternatively there could be some shape of rod that is inside the
      fuel chamber.  There are many ways to
      giggle/wiggle/twist/tap/lift/drop to have minor movement of the
      rod to assure the gravity flow of the fuel in the hopper.<br>
      <br>
      Alex is doing it the right way:   Start with uniform fuels like
      pellets or quality (screened) wood chips.   When a method works
      there, then start looking at the more difficult fuels to make
      flow.<br>
      <br>
      Paul<br>
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      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
Email:  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>   Skype: paultlud  Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
      On 10/22/2012 7:48 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear
            Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Not
            too fast there… that is what is exciting about Alex
            English’s dribble feeder (I am calling it because that is
            what it is doing). He is successful so far with wood chips,
            pellets and by extension, any small fuel like nut shells,
            coffee hulls etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
            am going to have a gander in November. It is the first <i>small</i>
            gravity feeder that I have seen work well. There is no
            reason it won’t work with rice hull if we get a bit clever.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You
            fan (geddit)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">It is the words "feed ... continuously"
            fuel that is a problem.   The pellet stoves (heaters) are
            acceptable and successful because the continuous feeding of
            fuel is automated.   No such luxury with inexpensive stoves
            for economically poor people.<br>
            <br>
            Paul<br>
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