Dear Alex,<div><br></div><div>Perhaps folks who think that adding CO2 (etc) to the atmosphere isn't such a great idea do see one world that is effected by the energy use of both rich and poor. Sustainably harvested and cleanly burned biomass then makes sense for both halves of humanity living on one small planet. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Super clean biomass stoves using pellets are available now for use by the rich. Why not make the same available to the poor? And while we're at it use natural draft, as you suggest.</div><div><br></div>
<div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Dean<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Alex English <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:english@kingston.net" target="_blank">english@kingston.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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...and burns free fuel, if I understand your point.<br>
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While we're imagining. Lets image a $200 dollar stove that heats
a room or rooms, with pellets, even when the power is out, and
helps rural folks, especially the elderly, stay in their homes.
Lets imagine that the profits, or a portion, go towards the
greater stove needs elsewhere.<br>
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Poor is relative, and I'll make no comparisons, but cord wood,
oil, propane, electricity, are inappropriate or to costly for a
growing number of people in 'rich' countries. <br>
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Imagine, these two related goals; better, cleaner stoves, 'north
and south', temperate and tropical, could be linked. <br>
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Probably just a dream....<br>
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Alex<br>
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On 28/10/2012 12:39 PM, Dean Still wrote:<br>
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<div>Imagine a $5 stove that is super clean available to all. Not
so hard to imagine!</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Paal
Wendelbo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paaw@online.no" target="_blank">paaw@online.no</a>></span>
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<p style="LINE-HEIGHT:13pt;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 10pt" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><font style="FONT-SIZE:11pt">It’s a good comparison,
mass-produced cheap cell- phones and
mass-produced cheap stoves. The loss of profit
on the product will easy be covered by the
operation with an agreement between theproducer
and the operator , price on minutes talking or
price of fuel for everyday clean cooking, . To
cover a huge area by mass-produced stoves you
demands homogeneous fuel like pellets to work
properly all over. (See the other discussion
about gravity).<span> </span>Was that not what
happen with the Ooria stove some times ago?</font></span></p>
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