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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Paal and all,<br>
      <br>
      While I agree with Paal, I point out one important additional
      element.   <br>
      <br>
      The need to have good stoves available for the end users.<br>
      <br>
      The GACC is involved in many aspects of stoves, but one in
      particular is the stimulation of the supply of the stoves.  
      Stoves PLURAL and of numerous types.   Which stoves, and where,
      and by whom are part of the basics that GACC is facilitating while
      not doing nor dictating.   Not an easy task.  <br>
      <br>
      So, linking Paal's comments and the GACC, should and can more
      attention to the end users be given by the GACC?   And if so, then
      how, when, etc.<br>
      <br>
      Paul<br>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
Email:  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>   Skype: paultlud  Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
       11/6/2012 3:31 AM, Paal Wendelbo wrote:<br>
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          <p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"
            class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-us"
              lang="EN-US"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dear Stovers
                and GACC</font></span></p>
          <p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"
            class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-us"
              lang="EN-US"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The discussion
                on the list must be crucial for GACC, though the end
                user for the program naturally dos not participate in
                the discussion.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>The
                academic part of the discussion is really informative
                and important for us stove designers but probably not
                that much for the end user. I feel there is too much
                focus on stoves on the list and to little focus on the
                end user, the cook and the fuel. What are the priorities
                of the end user? </font></span></p>
          <p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
            0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
            class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst"><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
              calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
                style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">1.</font><span
                  style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
                    face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">      
                    </font></font></span></span></span><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
                style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Price of stoves </font></span></p>
          <p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
            0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
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              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
              calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
                style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">2.</font><span
                  style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
                    face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">      
                    </font></font></span></span></span><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
                style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Price of fuel</font></span></p>
          <p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
            0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
            class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
              calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
                style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">3.</font><span
                  style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
                    face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">      
                    </font></font></span></span></span><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
                style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Economy </font></span></p>
          <p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
            0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
            class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
              calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
                style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">4.</font><span
                  style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
                    face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">      
                    </font></font></span></span></span><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
                style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Jobs</font></span></p>
          <p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
            0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
            class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
              calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
                style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">5.</font><span
                  style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
                    face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">      
                    </font></font></span></span></span><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
                style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Waste as fuel</font></span></p>
          <p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
            0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
            class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
              calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
                style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">6.</font><span
                  style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
                    face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">      
                    </font></font></span></span></span><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
                style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Soot, tar on the pot and smoke</font></span></p>
          <p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
            0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
            class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
              calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
                style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">7.</font><span
                  style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
                    face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">      
                    </font></font></span></span></span><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
                style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Practical <span
                  style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>use of stoves and
                fuel</font></span></p>
          <p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
            0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
            class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
              calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
                style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">8.</font><span
                  style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
                    face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">      
                    </font></font></span></span></span><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
                style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Design.</font></span></p>
          <p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
            0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
            class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
              calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
                style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">9.</font><span
                  style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
                    face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">      
                    </font></font></span></span></span><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
                style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Boiling beans.</font></span></p>
          <p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
            0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
            class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
              calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
                style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">10.</font><span
                  style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
                    face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">  
                    </font></font></span></span></span><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
                style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Minutes to boil 5 liter of water
                and MJ</font></span></p>
          <p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
            0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
            class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
              calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
                style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">11.</font><span
                  style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
                    face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">  
                    </font></font></span></span></span><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
                style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Health </font></span></p>
          <p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
            0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
            class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
              calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
                style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">12.</font><span
                  style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
                    face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">  
                    </font></font></span></span></span><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
                style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Environment</font></span></p>
          <p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
            0cm 10pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
            class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
              calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
                style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">13.</font><span
                  style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
                    face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">  
                    </font></font></span></span></span><span
              style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
                style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Biochar</font></span></p>
          <p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"
            class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-us"
              lang="EN-US"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It could be
                useful for all of us and especially for GACC, which has
                a unique possibility with this program to really change
                the household energy and health situation for the low
                income population in the world and in addition open for
                utilization of combustible waste and income generating
                activities.</font></span></p>
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            class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-us"
              lang="EN-US"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Regards Paal W
                <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:paaw@nline.no"><font
                    color="#0000ff">paaw@nline.no</font></a> </font></span></p>
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