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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Paal and all,<br>
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While I agree with Paal, I point out one important additional
element. <br>
<br>
The need to have good stoves available for the end users.<br>
<br>
The GACC is involved in many aspects of stoves, but one in
particular is the stimulation of the supply of the stoves.
Stoves PLURAL and of numerous types. Which stoves, and where,
and by whom are part of the basics that GACC is facilitating while
not doing nor dictating. Not an easy task. <br>
<br>
So, linking Paal's comments and the GACC, should and can more
attention to the end users be given by the GACC? And if so, then
how, when, etc.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka "Dr TLUD"
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
11/6/2012 3:31 AM, Paal Wendelbo wrote:<br>
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<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"
class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-us"
lang="EN-US"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dear Stovers
and GACC</font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"
class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-us"
lang="EN-US"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The discussion
on the list must be crucial for GACC, though the end
user for the program naturally dos not participate in
the discussion.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>The
academic part of the discussion is really informative
and important for us stove designers but probably not
that much for the end user. I feel there is too much
focus on stoves on the list and to little focus on the
end user, the cook and the fuel. What are the priorities
of the end user? </font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst"><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">1.</font><span
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</font></font></span></span></span><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Price of stoves </font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">2.</font><span
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</font></font></span></span></span><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Price of fuel</font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">3.</font><span
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</font></font></span></span></span><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Economy </font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">4.</font><span
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</font></font></span></span></span><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Jobs</font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">5.</font><span
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</font></font></span></span></span><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Waste as fuel</font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">6.</font><span
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</font></font></span></span></span><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Soot, tar on the pot and smoke</font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">7.</font><span
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</font></font></span></span></span><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Practical <span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>use of stoves and
fuel</font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">8.</font><span
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</font></font></span></span></span><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Design.</font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">9.</font><span
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</font></font></span></span></span><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Boiling beans.</font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">10.</font><span
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</font></font></span></span></span><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Minutes to boil 5 liter of water
and MJ</font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">11.</font><span
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</font></font></span></span></span><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Health </font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">12.</font><span
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</font></font></span></span></span><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Environment</font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm
0cm 10pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-bidi-font-family:
calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list: ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">13.</font><span
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "><font
face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</font></font></span></span></span><span
style="mso-ansi-language: en-us" lang="EN-US"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Biochar</font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"
class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-us"
lang="EN-US"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It could be
useful for all of us and especially for GACC, which has
a unique possibility with this program to really change
the household energy and health situation for the low
income population in the world and in addition open for
utilization of combustible waste and income generating
activities.</font></span></p>
<p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt"
class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-us"
lang="EN-US"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Regards Paal W
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:paaw@nline.no"><font
color="#0000ff">paaw@nline.no</font></a> </font></span></p>
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