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<DIV><FONT size=4 face=Arial>Dear Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tmiles@trmiles.com href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">Tom Miles</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">'Discussion of biomass cooking
stoves'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 06, 2012 11:28
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Stoves] Fwd: Smoke-free
biomass pellet fueled stove</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=WordSection1>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Kevin,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It
is a stretch and an insult to everyone on the stoves list to suggest that they
are practicing “classic imperialism” or “technology capitalism.” </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">#
Such a characterisation may very well be insulting to those who attempt to
take improved technology from those who developed it for those who need
it, but I would suggest that it is far from an insult to the many very
generous people on this list who trulg aim to help those in
need.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Are
their people in the stoves community who take advantage of others?
Unfortunately there are but they don’t necessarily fit your labels.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">#
The formula that seems to work is to bring technology to those in need, so
that they can then help themselves. Seeking free access and removal of
intellectual rights to improved technology already in the hands of those in
need would seem to be the reverse of the formula that seems to
work.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Now
if I were to characterize you with your musing as an otherwise intelligent old
man who exploits this list just for his own entertainment, and no productive
purpose, then I would call that “intellectual imperialism” because at those
times you dominate the list and rob us of valuable intellectual resources that
should be used to help those in need. </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">#
I apologize to you and to any List Members, where my views
come across in this selfish and obnoxious manner. My intent is to be
supportive of the purpose to which your stove site, <A
href="http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/">http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/</A> , is
dedicated:</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">"
<FONT color=#000000 size=3 face="Times New Roman">Our site is dedicated to
helping people develop better stoves for cooking with biomass fuels in
developing regions.</FONT>"</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Kevin</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Tom<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><A name=_MailEndCompose></A><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Kevin<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 06, 2012 5:07 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Stoves] Fwd:
Smoke-free biomass pellet fueled stove<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Dear
Ronald</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I was
struck by the apparent parallel between "Classic Old Time Imperialism" in the
Physical world, and "Technology Capitalism" in the "Stoves World."
Examples of the "Classic Old Time Capitalism" would be of the Romans who
conquered Countries for their Resources, and the Spaniards conquered the
Mayans and Incas for their Gold, as compared to "Technology Capitalism", where
a Member or Members of the "Stoves List World" seek to take New
Technology, "The Gold of the Stoves World" from "lesser
powers."</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Imperialism
is defined at <A
href="http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/imperialism">http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/imperialism</A>
Classic Imperialism usually involved exploitation of a smaller or weaker
Country or people by a more powerful Government or Country, where "the
Imperialist" takes labour and tangible resources from the Country or people it
dominates. The parallel with "Classic Imperialism" is perhaps weak, in that
neither Governments nor tangible resources are involved, but rather,
Individuals and abstract Technology.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Perhaps my
parallel was "too big a stretch." What do you
think?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Best
wishes,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Kevin</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in">
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=rwhongser@web.de href="mailto:rwhongser@web.de">Ronald
Hongsermeier</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">Discussion of biomass cooking
stoves</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Tuesday,
November 06, 2012 6:19 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: [Stoves]
Fwd: Smoke-free biomass pellet fueled stove<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>Dear Kevin,<BR><BR>Please
define "Imperialism" since it's not clear from the context what you
mean.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>Ronald von der
Neuenkleinindustrieparkanlage<BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>On 06.11.2012 05:37, Kevin wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Dear
Anil</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Sadly,
it looks like Imperialism is still alive and
well.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Best
wishes,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Kevin</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in">
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----
Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=nariphaltan@gmail.com href="mailto:nariphaltan@gmail.com">nari
phaltan</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">Discussion of biomass
cooking stoves</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Tuesday,
November 06, 2012 12:09 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: [Stoves]
Fwd: Smoke-free biomass pellet fueled stove<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #333399">Dear Prof
Nurhuda,</SPAN></B> <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #333399">It is a very
impressive development and you are right in expecting a suitable rate of
return on your intellectual property. Such requests for waiving rights
have also been received by us for our ethanol stove work before from
some members of the group.</SPAN></B><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #333399">All the
best.</SPAN></B><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #333399">Anil K
Rajvanshi</SPAN></B><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:38 PM, <<A
href="mailto:mnurhuda@ub.ac.id" target=_blank>mnurhuda@ub.ac.id</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Dear Prof. Anderson,<BR><BR>The equipments used to
produce the stove are actually the standard<BR>equipments used in the
kerosene stove production. They are hydraulic<BR>press, welding
equipment, roller, and still many other equipments.<BR><BR>The number of
personals are 30 persons, but those are involved in the<BR>production,
due to still lower demand, is only 6-10 persons.<BR><BR>The maximum
production capacity, at moment, around 500 units in week. But<BR>we can
increase up to 1000 units in week. It depends on the
difficulty<BR>level, the stove dimension and still many other
things.<BR><BR>The expenses used in the development of new stoves are
mostly for research<BR>and purchasing or build new equipments. We have
spent more tens thousands<BR>US$ from our start in the mid 2008. I
therefore disagree to any proposal<BR>to intelectual right removal, as
you ever wrote about it to me two years<BR>ago.<BR><BR>Kind
regards<BR>M. Nurhuda<BR><BR><BR><BR>Regards<BR>M.
Nurhuda<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR>> Dear M. Nurhuda,<BR>><BR>> Thank
you for the info.<BR>><BR>> Many of us are curious about your
workshop to produce such nice items.<BR>> Questions include the
equipment, personnel, and production capacity.<BR>><BR>> With
appreciation,<BR>><BR>> Paul<BR>><BR>> Paul S. Anderson, PhD
aka "Dr TLUD"<BR>> Email: <A
href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</A> Skype:
paultlud Phone: <A
href="tel:%2B1-309-452-7072">+1-309-452-7072</A><BR>> Website:
<A href="http://www.drtlud.com"
target=_blank>www.drtlud.com</A><BR>><BR>> On 11/5/2012 1:13 AM,
Ron Larson wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> Lists:<BR>>><BR>>>
Prof. Nurhuda has ok'd my forwarding this additional information
on<BR>>> his recently announced stove.<BR>>><BR>>>
Ron<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Begin forwarded
message:<BR>>><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>>>> *From:* Muhammad Nurhuda <<A
href="mailto:mnurhuda@gmail.com">mnurhuda@gmail.com</A><BR>>>>
<mailto:<A
href="mailto:mnurhuda@gmail.com">mnurhuda@gmail.com</A>>><BR>>>>
*Date:* November 4, 2012 5:01:46 PM MST<BR>>>> *To:* <A
href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net">rongretlarson@comcast.net</A>
<mailto:<A
href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net">rongretlarson@comcast.net</A>><BR>>>>
*Subject:* *Re: [Stoves] Smoke-free biomass pellet fueled
stove*<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>>>><BR>>>> Dear Mr
Larson,<BR>>>><BR>>>> Thank a lot for your email. The
stove is my recent attempt in order<BR>>>> biomass pellet can
be well burnt. Previously, I developed stove fueled<BR>>>>
wit<BR>>>> palm kernel shell. Even the stove was excellent for
palm kernel shell,<BR>>>> but<BR>>>> it is not
immediately good for biomass pellet. There are a lot of<BR>>>>
things<BR>>>> that have to be
optimized.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Yes, the excess air can be
seen from the appearance of the flame.<BR>>>>
Optimal<BR>>>> secondary air would produce very
transparent,short flame, though it<BR>>>> must<BR>>>>
not be blue...... Mr Crispin Pemberton Pigott has witnessed the
stove<BR>>>> as I demonstrated it in Yayasan Dian Desa, last
October.<BR>>>><BR>>>> I just started to sell this
pellet stoves. At the moment, I got<BR>>>>
purchasing<BR>>>> order of 1200 stoves. It occurs after the
buyer perform test by<BR>>>> himself.<BR>>>> However,
due to limited capacity of our workshop, the buyer must
wait<BR>>>> up<BR>>>> to 3 months right now. At the
moment, we are manufacturing 1600<BR>>>> chopped-wood fueled
stoves for project in Sumba Island,
Indonesia.<BR>>>><BR>>>> The percentage of charcoal by
weight is 20-25%. Some time it is less.<BR>>>>
But<BR>>>> certainly, our stove burns the smoke very well until
the last smoke<BR>>>>
production.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Biochar is char that
contains volatile matter (VM) less then 3%. When<BR>>>>
the<BR>>>> VM is still high, let say 5%, the reaction of VM and
water can lead the<BR>>>> acidic soil condition, and it is not
good for the plant. We believe<BR>>>> that<BR>>>> the
biochar produced by combustion of our stove is VM-free, such
that<BR>>>> it<BR>>>> is good for soil
conditioner.<BR>>>><BR>>>> As you might know, my
background is a theoretical atomic and laser<BR>>>> physicist.
I do not know some specific terms like turn-down ratio.
I<BR>>>> started to develop stoves in the late 2008. In
addition, I do not have<BR>>>> laboratory, just small workshop
that produces the stoves. So far, the<BR>>>> performance tests
are performed by external laboratories. In 2010 test<BR>>>>
performed by PT Puser Bumi in cooperation with directory of
bioenergy,<BR>>>> republic of Indonesia, our wood chopped
stoves was the best among other<BR>>>> 60<BR>>>>
stoves.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Kind regards<BR>>>> M.
Nurhuda<BR>>>><BR>>>> > Prof.
Nurhuda<BR>>>> > This is a really fine looking stove. The
part that intrigues me most<BR>>>> is<BR>>>> that you
are controlling secondary air for the pyrolysis gases.
And<BR>>>> apparently doing it (and primary air) well with the
rotating disc<BR>>>> mechanism. I do not recall seeing any
other stove controlling both<BR>>>> (without a fan) - so any
data on the value of that for users of the<BR>>>>
stove<BR>>>> > could be very helpful to others. (Can they
control excess air by the<BR>>>> look<BR>>>> > of
the flame?)<BR>>>> > A few questions:<BR>>>> >
the price?<BR>>>> > sales going well?<BR>>>> >
what percentage char by weight?<BR>>>> > any soil
improvement results from using the biochar?<BR>>>> > can you
do more than a 4:3 turndown ratio? (based on your two
stated<BR>>>> power<BR>>>> >
levels)<BR>>>> > apparently you are striving for biochar
(great!), but can you<BR>>>> describe<BR>>>>
conditions if you try to burn the produced char?<BR>>>> >
any efficiency data?<BR>>>> > you appear to be pre-heating
both primary and secondary air - can you<BR>>>> attribute any
performance improvement to that? (I know of no-one else<BR>>>>
doing both)<BR>>>> > Thanks for the alert on your
stove.<BR>>>> > Ron<BR>>>> > ----- Original
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> Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 5:03:54 PM<BR>>>> >
Subject: [Stoves] Smoke-free biomass pellet fueled stove<BR>>>>
> Dear all,<BR>>>> > Please check to following page to
see the video of our smoke-free,<BR>>>> biomass-pellet fueled
stove:<BR>>>> ><A
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