I would be wary of using aluminum - it melts around 660 C and the char in gasifier stoves can well exceed this temperature.<div><br></div><div>Josh</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Paul Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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    <div>Frank, Crispin and all, <br>
      <br>
      For Frank's needs in testing labs in affluent countries, the
      suggested methods could include the following (combining thoughts
      from several contributors):<br>
      <br>
      1.   Dry Ice   (solid CO2),   Can be weighed if the CO2 is an
      issue.   Worth a try, but watch out for the expansion of the
      gases.   (Usually cooling involves contraction, but the dry ice
      will greatly expand.)<br>
      <br>
      2.  ALUMINUM disks or squares or washers.   Ball have undesirable
      thickness.   Flat will take the heat quickly.   And can be
      separated easily and re-weighed if suspected char dust clinging to
      the objects is a quantity of concern (unlikely).  <br>
      <br>
      For testing labs without access to dry ice (distribution or
      financial limitations), consider the aluminum flat objects.   
      These can be made easily in any developing country.   Melting of
      aluminum drink-cans will do the job.   <br>
      <br>
      Also, ceramic "snuffer containers" (such as Paul Olivier's) might
      be designed to receive the aluminum pieces and allow tumbling (the
      ceramic will take some of the heat) and then be placed in a
      container with water to further pull away the heat.    Having
      written this, I now add:   Why bother with the weight and
      fragility of ceramics?   Just get a metal container (aluminum
      could be superior) with an appropriate lid and even a know
      weight.   Cooled and can be weighted inside the container.<br>
      <br>
      Paul     (in Kampala)<br>
      <br>
      <pre cols="72">Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
Email:  <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>   Skype: paultlud  Phone: <a href="tel:%2B1-309-452-7072" value="+13094527072" target="_blank">+1-309-452-7072</a>
Website:  <a href="http://www.drtlud.com" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a></pre><div><div class="h5">
      On 12/4/2012 6:41 PM, Frank Shields wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ron,
            <u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
            think there is a misunderstanding of my intent. The method I
            use in the lab is intended for just measuring the energy at
            a snap shot of time (WBT test ends)  and then dumping the
            char in the dumpster. What you and others mention is another
            subject (quenching char for sale). The cost of water,
            nitrogen, argon, CO2 and other gases are a non-issue for the
            small amount we would use and we make up the cost from the
            clients wanting the tests. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Frank<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                <a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" target="_blank">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>
                [<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" target="_blank">mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>] <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 04, 2012 3:57 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Crispin Pemberton-Pigott; Frank Shields;
                Elisha Moore-Delate<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] Equipment required for
                testing stoves<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">List
                and ccs<br>
                <br>
                    I haven't seen mentioned today a possible approach
                that might solve some of the indicated problems for
                extinguishing a char-making batch stove.  This is the
                same that I mentioned to a smaller group a day or so
                ago.  The idea would be to use a rock dust that one
                might want anyway for improving the char's soil
                augmentation properties.  Some rock dusts are like
                biochar - carbon negative (as an oxide, hydroxide,
                sulfate etc changes with time over to a carbonate).<br>
                <br>
                    It would be simple to weigh (maybe just measure the
                volume of) the rock dust placed on top of the hot char
                to block air flow.   If char is eligible for carbon
                credits, then the combination should be worth even more 
                (the exact ratio of credits needs work).<br>
                <br>
                   A white "quenching" powder might even get additional
                credits for improving the albedo.<br>
                <br>
                   I think we are in agreement that we don't want to use
                water, nitrogen (costly) or CO2 (costly), but I think
                dirt (or sand/clay, etc - as suggested by Elisha) is
                also OK - as long as we weigh the amount used to
                extinguish.   When one needs to measure and characterize
                the char, then a "vase" technique like Paul Olivier has
                suggested is probably needed.  But smothering a bed of
                char which something that adds value to the char sounds
                easier to apply/manipulate than moving the hot char.<br>
                <br>
                   I am assisting with a project to collect data on
                biochar and rock dusts (and even better their use
                together) in field-performance.  I'd love to hear from
                anyone with such data.<br>
                <br>
                Ron<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:
                </span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">"Crispin
                Pemberton-Pigott" <<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@gmail.com" target="_blank">crispinpigott@gmail.com</a>><br>
                <b>To: </b>"Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br>
                <b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, December 4, 2012 3:14:13 PM<br>
                <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Stoves] Equipment required for
                testing stoves<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Use
                an aluminum plate!</span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">One
                problem would be the size of the char and the fact there
                is unburned torrefied wood inside some char. It won’t
                crush easily. It is a reason the error on the estimated
                heat value in the char is large.</span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Regards</span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Crispin</span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                    Stoves [<a href="mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>]
                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:09 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] Equipment required for
                    testing stoves</span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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            </div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dear
                  Frank</span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">What
                  about 2 steel pie plates? Put char in one and cover
                  with the other.</span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">If
                  char was very hot, to enhance cooling rate, set the
                  bottom plate on a paper towel soaked in water, and
                  spray the top plate with a water mist. </span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Best
                  wishes,</span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Kevin</span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">-----
                    Original Message ----- </span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#e4e4e4"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
                    <a href="mailto:frank@compostlab.com" title="frank@compostlab.com" target="_blank">Frank Shields</a> </span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">To:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
                    <a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" title="stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">'Discussion
                      of biomass cooking stoves'</a> </span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
                    Tuesday, December 04, 2012 5:14 PM</span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
                    Re: [Stoves] Equipment required for testing stoves</span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Paul,</span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
                  like the vase. And having a pot of water on top
                  collecting ‘energy’ as the WACW cools seems like a
                  great method of measuring energy loss during the
                  cooling that can be added on to the values determined
                  from a ground and tested WACW. Wonder if that would
                  work - Crispin? </span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Frank</span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                  Stoves [<a href="mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>]
                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Olivier<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 04, 2012 12:41 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] Equipment required for
                  testing stoves</span><span style><u></u><u></u></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style>Frank,<br>
                  <br>
                  Getting an accurate dry weight of biochar is
                  indispensable in being able to sell it.<br>
                  If we douse the biochar with water, then we no longer
                  have an accurate measurement of dry weight.<br>
                  Also biochar right out of the gasifier contains
                  valuable heat that could be used in keeping food warm.<br>
                  <br>
                  Therefore I designed a terracotta vase to contain the
                  hot biochar.<br>
                  A pot placed on top of the vase prevents oxygen from
                  entering.<br>
                  The vase shown in the drawing below can hold six
                  liters of biochar.<br>
                  This is the volume of rice hull biochar produced in my
                  150 gasifier.<br>
                  <a href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22013094/150%20Gasifier/Terrecotta%20Vase/Drawing/Terracotta%20Vase.pdf" target="_blank">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22013094/150%20Gasifier/Terrecotta%20Vase/Drawing/Terracotta%20Vase.pdf</a><br>

                  <br>
                  Thanks.<br>
                  Paul Olivier<br>
                  <br>
                  <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style>On Wed,
                    Dec 5, 2012 at 3:20 AM, Frank Shields <<a href="mailto:frank@compostlab.com" target="_blank">frank@compostlab.com</a>>
                    wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style>Hi Crispin,<br>
                    <br>
                    Weighing the fuel when removed (hot and burning) and
                    dry weight after<br>
                    soaking with water, draining (screen) and drying is
                    not a convenient<br>
                    procedure to determine moisture left -and prone to
                    error - but only method I<br>
                    can think of at the moment.<br>
                    Water puts out a fire by taking away its heat. So
                    wondering if there is<br>
                    another method that could be used? Combination
                    nitrogen gas and pieces of<br>
                    steel in a tumbler? Must be some way besides water.<br>
                    <br>
                    Frank<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    Frank Shields<br>
                    Control Laboratories, Inc.<br>
                    42 Hangar Way<br>
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                    -----Original Message-----<br>
                    From: Stoves [mailto:<a href="mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>]
                    On Behalf Of<br>
                    Crispin Pemberton-Pigott<br>
                    Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:26 AM<br>
                    To: Stoves<br>
                    Subject: Re: [Stoves] Equipment required for testing
                    stoves<br>
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                    Dear Frank<br>
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                    You are on the right track, in my view. The assumed
                    energy for the wood and<br>
                    char is a major source of imprecision in the test.<br>
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                    As for quenching with water: unfortunately we need
                    to know the residual<br>
                    moisture content of the fuel 'as removed'. That
                    varies a lot depending on<br>
                    the stove type. Quenching it with nitrogen is an
                    alternative.<br>
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                    Regards<br>
                    Crispin<br>
                    -----Original Message-----<br>
                    From: "Frank Shields" <<a href="mailto:frank@compostlab.com" target="_blank">frank@compostlab.com</a>><br>
                    Sender: "Stoves" <<a href="mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br>
                    Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 10:19:39<br>
                    To: 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'<<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br>
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                    Subject: [Stoves] Equipment required for testing
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