<html>
  <head>
    <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
      http-equiv="Content-Type">
  </head>
  <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/12/2012 12:25 AM, Crispin
      Pemberton-Pigott wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote cite="mid:0a5501cdd504$783299e0$6897cda0$@gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
        charset=ISO-8859-1">
      <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered
        medium)">
      <style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
        {font-family:Calibri;
        panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Consolas;
        panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Tahoma;
        panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
        {margin:0mm;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        font-size:12.0pt;
        font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
        color:black;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:blue;
        text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:purple;
        text-decoration:underline;}
p.MsoPlainText, li.MsoPlainText, div.MsoPlainText
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        mso-style-link:"Plain Text Char";
        margin:0mm;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        font-size:10.5pt;
        font-family:Consolas;
        color:black;}
p.MsoNoSpacing, li.MsoNoSpacing, div.MsoNoSpacing
        {mso-style-priority:1;
        margin-top:5.0pt;
        margin-right:0mm;
        margin-bottom:5.0pt;
        margin-left:0mm;
        mso-add-space:auto;
        font-size:11.0pt;
        font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
        color:#1F497D;}
p.MsoNoSpacingCxSpFirst, li.MsoNoSpacingCxSpFirst, div.MsoNoSpacingCxSpFirst
        {mso-style-priority:1;
        mso-style-type:export-only;
        margin-top:5.0pt;
        margin-right:0mm;
        margin-bottom:0mm;
        margin-left:0mm;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        mso-add-space:auto;
        font-size:11.0pt;
        font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
        color:#1F497D;}
p.MsoNoSpacingCxSpMiddle, li.MsoNoSpacingCxSpMiddle, div.MsoNoSpacingCxSpMiddle
        {mso-style-priority:1;
        mso-style-type:export-only;
        margin:0mm;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        mso-add-space:auto;
        font-size:11.0pt;
        font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
        color:#1F497D;}
p.MsoNoSpacingCxSpLast, li.MsoNoSpacingCxSpLast, div.MsoNoSpacingCxSpLast
        {mso-style-priority:1;
        mso-style-type:export-only;
        margin-top:0mm;
        margin-right:0mm;
        margin-bottom:5.0pt;
        margin-left:0mm;
        mso-add-space:auto;
        font-size:11.0pt;
        font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
        color:#1F497D;}
span.PlainTextChar
        {mso-style-name:"Plain Text Char";
        mso-style-priority:99;
        mso-style-link:"Plain Text";
        font-family:Consolas;}
span.EmailStyle20
        {mso-style-type:personal-reply;
        font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
        color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
        {mso-style-type:export-only;
        font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
        {size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
        margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
div.WordSection1
        {page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
      <div class="WordSection1">Dear Crispin,<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What
              was the diameter of the chamber?</span></p>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    30 cm.<br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:0a5501cdd504$783299e0$6897cda0$@gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div class="WordSection1">
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Do
              you have a good idea what the burn rate was? </span></p>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    I'll guess 7- 8kw, but that is an estimate based on assumptions.
    Sound familiar?<br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:0a5501cdd504$783299e0$6897cda0$@gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div class="WordSection1">
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
              realise the calculation of the power output per unit area
              will be difficult to get precisely but I’d like some idea.
              Operating at a low level sets the low power limit for
              stove characterisation and the determination of the Turn
              Down Ratio of a stove.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
              am thinking ‘warming’ power for long, low cooking.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Then,
              for the same chamber, based on your experience what would
              the maximum burn rate be? As the upper limit is
              constrained by draft through the system the rate is a
              statement about <i>your</i> system, but still, what sort
              of controllability did you obtain for the power level?</span></p>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    Perhaps 12 kw.<br>
    <br>
    For my test burner on natural draft the burn rate (or pyrolysis
    front downward movement rate) is 6-10cm/hr.  Higher if you can up
    the primary air. Josh should be able to tell us what that was for
    his forced air tests. I once pushed the BIG-TOP hard with a high
    pressure blower but I didn't record the rate. Sounded like a rocket
    though. At some point we fluidise the bed.<br>
    <br>
    Alex<br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:0a5501cdd504$783299e0$6897cda0$@gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div class="WordSection1">
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks<br>
              Crispin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
Stoves mailing list

to Send a Message to the list, use the email address
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>

to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org</a>

for more Biomass Cooking Stoves,  News and Information see our web site:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.bioenergylists.org/">http://www.bioenergylists.org/</a>

</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </body>
</html>