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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Tom,<br>
       <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.bacatec.de/dl/Ge09_Glaser-Steiner_engl.pdf">http://www.bacatec.de/dl/Ge09_Glaser-Steiner_engl.pdf</a><br>
      shows a separate, data set, for Pyreg char. All at 550C all near
      zero PAH.<br>
      Seems odd to label the bad numbers with such a loaded alias,.....
      unless.....<br>
      <br>
      Alex<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 09/02/2013 8:29 PM, Tom Miles wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Alex,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
            haven’t seen any complete TLUD char analyses. The Glaser
            groups seems to be making their gasification char in the
            Pyreg gasifier.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Tom
             <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
            name="_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                Stoves [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alex English<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:41 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] Characteristics of biochar
                was Re: [biochar] grassifier & cedar chip char<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Crispin, Tom,<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ithaka-journal.net/certificate/european-biochar-certificate-v4.2-final2012.pdf">http://www.ithaka-journal.net/certificate/european-biochar-certificate-v4.2-final2012.pdf</a><br>
            This document  includes a lengthier discussion of PAHs in
            char, including how some chars are used to bind them in
            soils, and that current methods for testing are problematic.<br>
            <br>
            We have test results from chars that could be called ' wood
            gasification' char at levels below the 4mg/kg limit for
            'premium biochar'.<br>
            <br>
            The high PAH levels >1000mg/kg in wood gasification chars
            mentioned below needs a further explanation of the
            production method. Wood gasification is to vague.<br>
            <br>
            Are there any PAH tests results for TLUD rice hull chars?<br>
            <br>
            Alex<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            On 06/02/2013 2:35 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear
              Tom</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks
              for that:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.bacatec.de/dl/Ge09_Glaser-Steiner_engl.pdf">http://www.bacatec.de/dl/Ge09_Glaser-Steiner_engl.pdf</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">“</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">A
              further criterion for the quality of biochar is the lack
              of contamination with both inorganic</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">(e.g.
              heavy metals) and organic contaminants (e.g. polycyclic
              aromatic hydrocarbons (PAH),</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">dioxins
              etc.). In this study, we could only evaluate polycyclic
              aromatic hydrocarbons (PAH,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Fig.
              4). Although chars from wood gasification are within the
              elemental composition and the</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">black
              carbon thresholds, they exhibit extremely high PAH
              contents (Fig. 4). Therefore, they</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";background:aqua;mso-highlight:aqua">are
              not suited for soil amendment</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">
              and thus, they cannot be classified as biochar.
              Surprisingly</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">high
              PAH contents were also measured in the barbeque charcoals
              (Fig. 4) while all other</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">investigated
              chars had low PAH contents (Fig. 4).”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Well,
              there’s a kick in the head. Why not? Because of chemicals
              manufactured in the process that were not there in the
              original fuel. That may explain a lot to some
              experimenters.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Crispin</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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