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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Dear Ron</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thanks for your very interesting report to date on "The
Big Event."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I think that one thing that could be very helpful is a
Graph showing " Stove Price" versus "Potential Customers." Clearly, if a person
is earning say $1 per day, and the stove cost $70, this would be equivalent to
70 days income. Here in Canada, where the minimum wage is $10 per hour, or $80
per day, a stove costing 70 days income would cost $5,600.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Or, to look at it from the other direction, "What price
would a stove have to sell for, so that 90% of the World's Population could
afford to buy it"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Kevin</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=rongretlarson@comcast.net
href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net">rongretlarson@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">Discussion of biomass</A> ; <A
title=biochar@yahoogroups.com
href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com">biochar</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=pkarve@arti-india.org
href="mailto:pkarve@arti-india.org">Priyadarshini Karve</A> ; <A
title=psanders@ilstu.edu href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">,"paul anderson</A>
; <A title=crispinpigott@gmail.com
href="mailto:crispinpigott@gmail.com">Crispin Pemberton-Pigott</A> ; <A
title=Ruben@ace.co.ls href="mailto:Ruben@ace.co.ls">Ruben@ace.co.ls</A> ; <A
title=adrian@rocketworks.org
href="mailto:adrian@rocketworks.org">adrian@rocketworks.org</A> ; <A
title=sonta@emerging.se href="mailto:sonta@emerging.se">sonta@emerging.se</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 18, 2013 11:19
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [biochar] First report from
Phnom Penh</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi to two
lists (with 6 ccs)<BR><BR> 1. This written at end of "first"
day of conference. Actually the official first GACC day is tomorrow, but
today was also the second day of pre-conference activities.. List
members active on these two lists, here (and shown on the "to" list), who I
hope will add more are Priya Karve, Paul Anderson and Crispin
Pemberton-Piggott. I missed the first day - Sunday - returning from Siem
Reap - home of Angkor Wat. This is definitely the most
impressive world heritage site I have seen or could imagine. Uniformly
impressed by the Cambodian people.<BR><BR> 2. My overall
impression is that very few attendees know much about biochar nor char-making
stoves. Of course most everyone knows something about stoves -
although I would guess that fewer than half have been involved for more than a
year or t wo Heard tonight that there are 650 registrants.
Great conference facilities; no conference registration fee and fair
number of freebie meals, coffee-break treats etc.<BR><BR> 3. My
first surprise char-making stove encounter was with Sonta Kauti, a Zambian
with "Emerging Cooking Solutions" - whose stove can be seen at
www.emerging.se. I have not yet seen the actual stove, nor yet know its
pricing - but plan more talks with Sonta<BR><BR> 4. Next was a
short encounter with Ruben Walker of "African Clean Energy" (see
http://www.ace.co.ls/), now manufacturing in Lesotho the "Philips" fan stove
developed by Paul van der Sluis (PvdS). This has been identified as
having the best performance characteristics so far tested. This was my
first chance to hold one - and it looks exceptionally well made. A
surprise was the set of 10 or 12 (?) flat ceramic liner pieces for the
interior (maybe 1 cm thick??).&nb sp; Presumably long life time - being
non-metal. Ruben said one could hold the outside of the stove
after an hour of cooking -possible because there are four concentric
metal cylinders (three concentric air gaps). This stove is not
char making - but I remember hearing that PvdS regularly operates it as a
charcoal-maker. Cost in neighborhood of $70.<BR><BR> 5.
Later, at this evening's reception, Mr. Adrian Padt of "Rocket Works"
introduced himself (see http://www.rocketworks.org/ - including
photo of Adrian). This is the stove with the interesting heavy wire mesh
exterior that we discussed a few months ago - also can be held.
This also looked exceptionally well made and rugged. Cost in the
neighborhood of $50. In addition to the version seen at the site,
they are now adding a door to better control excess air.<BR><BR> 6. I
attended a day-long session put on by the World B ank and the Asian
Development Bank.- the emphasis was on country organizations in this
region. Crispin was on what I thought the best panel - on testing, etc.
This is to hope that Priya, Paul, and Crispin (and anyone else from
these lists here in Phnom Penh) will also add their early summary
thoughts.<BR><BR>Any questions I/we can try to answer?<BR><BR>Ron<BR></DIV>
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