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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jed, Ron, Paul, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Many thanks for sending us these reports and pictures from the conference. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Please give my regards to Ms. Sununtar Setboonsarng whom I met at the biochar conference in Kyoto in 2011. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tom<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>jed.building.bridges@gmail.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 21, 2013 11:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Stoves] Second report from Phnom Penh<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>HI All<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This is Jed Guinto from the Philippines also at the GACC conference here at Phnom Penh. Hi Ron... i did not meet you yet... but met Dean Still and briefly Christa Rot. Im so happy to be here and finally meet all the geniuses of the stove sector. I also had the chance to chat with Crispin Pembertton Pigott and had a handful of advice and exchange of news. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Then i met people from GERES, the French NGO. The conversation with Iwan Baskoro was very fruitful because he laid out the history of their efforts in the Philippines, on which i may build upon. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I joined the session on the Stoves Health and Sanitation. The diiscussion went deep into behavior change and bio char among others. The presentation of Mr. Larry Sthreshley from his work in Congo talked about the connection of cookstoves into food security, and that is through biochar. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The call for biochar again resounded during the breakout group session for SouthEast Asia. The moderator, Ms. Sununtar Stboonsarng of ADB, at the end of the session made the remark... suggesting that the GACC put particular focus on bio char. It is because it would be the link of the stoves to health, sanitation and water. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I had a grand time over the exhibits.... the Onil Stove, the EnviroFit.....the Solar cookers and ovens and also had a nice photo with Dean Still.. He is a big man indeed... in his deeds and in his size. It would have been nice to see an exhibit by the BioLite, but it was not there .<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thursday, i will join the site visit to the sugar processing station where they use solar power. I would like to follow a hybrid model of a stove and solar power coming together.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hope to meet more of you in the conference. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jed <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>2013/3/20 <<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" target="_blank">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi again all (adding Dean Still)<br><br>1. Very good opening plenary with lead off by UC Berkeley Prof Kirk Smith - the most well known world expert in stove health topics (Household Air Pollution (HAP) now #4 killer - about 4 million per year. Emphasized difficulty of making changes. He was followed by U Illinois professor Tami Bond, who was the main speaker at the last Ethos conference and who has also done a lot of stove testing.<br><br>2. I then attended a breakout session chaired by Christa Roth of GIZ. She also was at last ETHOS meeting and has great summary book on char-making and gasifier stoves. Great talk by Paul Means of Burn Lab (Seattle) on the (mostly transportation) reasons NOT to work with charcoal made in remote areas.<br><br>3. I missed the next plenary on major country GACC programs, but attended a well-done breakout survey of stove activities in China.<br>Here Dean Still raved about the capabilities of the Chinese stove community. In particular the Stove Tec main Chinese partner was there (Mr. Chen or Shen). Apparently there is little activity with char-making stoves (I will try to get Dean's view on that). But at the same Chinese meeting today, I met several groups that are working in China on char-making stoves. GACC might have a list of Chinese stove manufacturers.<br> Talked with several Chinese forestry experts (and China is doing quite well in this area)..<br><br>4. Tonight was the main banquet - during most of which we were entertained by 25-30 young Cambodian folk dancers/musicians..<br><br> 5. Afterwards, I visited the small display area of stoves - maybe 20 in all and maybe 5 were char making. Gustavo Pena of El Salvador showed me a char-making stove of his own design with lots of "attachments" (including an oven) [couldn't find a website]. Also saw several stoves being sold in China by Dylan Maxwell of Novotera and Planetstove. More coming on this.<br><br>Again I hope others will jump in.<br><br> <br>Ron<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" target="_blank">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a><br><b>To: </b>"Discussion of biomass" <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>, "biochar" <<a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"Priyadarshini Karve" <<a href="mailto:pkarve@arti-india.org" target="_blank">pkarve@arti-india.org</a>>, ",\"paul anderson" <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>>, "Crispin Pemberton-Pigott" <<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@gmail.com" target="_blank">crispinpigott@gmail.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:Ruben@ace.co.ls" target="_blank">Ruben@ace.co.ls</a>, <a href="mailto:adrian@rocketworks.org" target="_blank">adrian@rocketworks.org</a>, <a href="mailto:sonta@emerging.se" target="_blank">sonta@emerging.se</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, March 18, 2013 8:19:14 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>First report from Phnom Penh<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi to two lists (with 6 ccs)<br><br> 1. This written at end of "first" day of conference. Actually the official first GACC day is tomorrow, but today was also the second day of pre-conference activities.. List members active on these two lists, here (and shown on the "to" list), who I hope will add more are Priya Karve, Paul Anderson and Crispin Pemberton-Piggott. I missed the first day - Sunday - returning from Siem Reap - home of Angkor Wat. This is definitely the most impressive world heritage site I have seen or could imagine. Uniformly impressed by the Cambodian people.<br><br> 2. My overall impression is that very few attendees know much about biochar nor char-making stoves. Of course most everyone knows something about stoves - although I would guess that fewer than half have been involved for more than a year or two Heard tonight that there are 650 registrants. Great conference facilities; no conference registration fee and fair number of freebie meals, coffee-break treats etc.<br><br> 3. My first surprise char-making stove encounter was with Sonta Kauti, a Zambian with "Emerging Cooking Solutions" - whose stove can be seen at <a href="http://www.emerging.se" target="_blank">www.emerging.se</a>. I have not yet seen the actual stove, nor yet know its pricing - but plan more talks with Sonta<br><br> 4. Next was a short encounter with Ruben Walker of "African Clean Energy" (see <a href="http://www.ace.co.ls/" target="_blank">http://www.ace.co.ls/</a>), now manufacturing in Lesotho the "Philips" fan stove developed by Paul van der Sluis (PvdS). This has been identified as having the best performance characteristics so far tested. This was my first chance to hold one - and it looks exceptionally well made. A surprise was the set of 10 or 12 (?) flat ceramic liner pieces for the interior (maybe 1 cm thick??). Presumably long life time - being non-metal. Ruben said one could hold the outside of the stove after an hour of cooking -possible because there are four concentric metal cylinders (three concentric air gaps). This stove is not char making - but I remember hearing that PvdS regularly operates it as a charcoal-maker. Cost in neighborhood of $70.<br><br> 5. Later, at this evening's reception, Mr. Adrian Padt of "Rocket Works" introduced himself (see <a href="http://www.rocketworks.org/" target="_blank">http://www.rocketworks.org/</a> - including photo of Adrian). This is the stove with the interesting heavy wire mesh exterior that we discussed a few months ago - also can be held. This also looked exceptionally well made and rugged. Cost in the neighborhood of $50. In addition to the version seen at the site, they are now adding a door to better control excess air.<br><br> 6. I attended a day-long session put on by the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank.- the emphasis was on country organizations in this region. Crispin was on what I thought the best panel - on testing, etc. This is to hope that Priya, Paul, and Crispin (and anyone else from these lists here in Phnom Penh) will also add their early summary thoughts.<br><br>Any questions I/we can try to answer?<br><br>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Stoves mailing list<br><br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br><a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br><a href="http://www.bioenergylists.org/" target="_blank">http://www.bioenergylists.org/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>