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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoPlainText>Dear Julien<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>If you can, drive down the 401 to visit Alex English and discuss this with him over a cup of tea. He knows a lot about the subject of burning grass (+hay).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Bring a pencil and notebook <span style='font-family:Wingdings'>J</span> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Regards<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Crispin (from Waterloo)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>++++++</p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hello stovers;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I have read with great interest about the Vetiver Grass bundles used in Peko pe TLUD stoves in Haiti.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://haitireconstruction.ning.com/page/tlud-grass-stoves"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://haitireconstruction.ning.com/page/tlud-grass-stoves</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>The reason for my interest is that I would like to use rice straw as a fuel.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Does anybody have experience with grass bundles to be able to answer a few questions:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>How big are the bundles relative to the TLUD chamber (e.g, 80% of the horizontal cross sectional area)?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Do you place one big bundle in the TLUD or many small ones?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Are they stacked horizontally or vertically?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To my mind, this all relates to how the primary air flows in the TLUD.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> If primary air flows around the outside of bundles, then is there a possibility that the fire will just burn down the outside of the bundles and go straight to the primary air inlets at the bottom of the TLUD, bypassing much of the fuel? If so, we will get a bottom fire producing incombustible smoke. I expect there is some art to using these bundles.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Getting grass bundles to work in stoves is a great idea, because (for me so far) loose straw is a smoky mess, and pelleting is too expensive for many people.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Julien.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>--<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Julien Winter<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Cobourg, ON, CANADA<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Stoves mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address <a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page <a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>