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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-CA link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dear Kevin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You analysis is correct. When rating the performance of a stove from a fuel use perspective, the chart is correct:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0mm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Two stoves are being compared for "Efficiency". </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Given facts from Tests:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=449 style='width:337.0pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:14.25pt'><td width=167 style='width:125.0pt;border-top:1.5pt;border-left:1.5pt;border-bottom:1.0pt;border-right:1.0pt;border-color:windowtext;border-style:solid;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:14.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=77 style='width:58.0pt;border-top:solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:14.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>STOVE A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=68 style='width:51.0pt;border-top:solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:14.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>STOVE B</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=68 style='width:51.0pt;border-top:solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:14.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>STOVE C</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=69 style='width:52.0pt;border-top:solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:14.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>STOVE D</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:13.5pt'><td style='border-top:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Nature of Fuel</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Ag. Waste</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Ag.Waste</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Stickwood</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Stickwood</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:13.5pt'><td style='border-top:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Fuel Energy Supplied, MJ</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>10</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>15</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>10</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>15</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:13.5pt'><td style='border-top:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Energy to Cooking Pot, MJ</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>5</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>5</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>5</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>5</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:13.5pt'><td style='border-top:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Energy in Char, MJ</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>0</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>5</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>0</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>5</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:13.5pt'><td style='border-top:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Stove Efficiency, %</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>50.00%</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>33.33%</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>50.00%</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 0mm;height:13.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>33.33%</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If someone is interested in the char, it can be reported. What Ron is proposing, to add that heat energy available in the char back into the mix, is akin to considering the energy efficiency to be the fuel efficiency which is precisely what created for us a problem in the first place. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The energy value of the char came from somewhere. Consider a stove that takes 2 tons of forest per year. If it produces ¼ of a ton of forest’s worth of energy in the form of char, fine. Say so. But saying so does not reduce the two tons of forest it takes. If you have (as you pointed out) a second stove that can utilise the charcoal, then that can be viewed as a ‘system’ by all and sundry, but is still does not change the fact that Stove 1 takes two tons of forest each year which is what the reported fuel consumption should be. No smoke and mirrors.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Burying the char as a soil amendment instead of burning it merely takes us back to the two tons of forest per year draw-down and returns it to the environment in an (apparently) inert, solid form.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>What has been happening that is wrong, in my view, is that stoves that take off 3 tons of forest per year have been getting credit for taking only one ton and proclaimed to be ‘better’ and ‘more fuel efficient’ than a two-ton stove. Plainly this is not the case and the test method has to report the fuel consumption correctly. It is a problem that the UNFCCC methodology does not handle this well because it is being used for CDM trades.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Crispin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>